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February 19, 2013 - 4:52 am

There's two black little things on the sides, push/pull outward there, and they'll pop off of two pins, and it slides off the front. Nice, quick, beautifully simple. I wish the s107's had that system---it's a LOT nicer.

 

The nice thing with the s800g is it is a lot more efficient of a flier, (less gears and better direct gearing for the correct ratio) and the controls are a lot more precise, a lot faster responding. With the s107, there's a slight delay between telling it to go foreward/backward as the rear prop speeds up, then tilts the heli, with the s800, it's instant because the servo snaps down and tilts the blades directly.

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February 18, 2013 - 9:32 am

Hello.   I am new to the rc helicopters.  I got a S107G and later a S800G.   I find the 107 easier to control.  The 800 is a little too quick for me right now.   Both lots of fun.

I have a question:  how do you change the head cover on the S800 ?   I don't want to just pull at the mounting points for fear of breaking something.  I don't see how to release the mountings - they are not screws like the S107's head cover mountings.   Any thoughts?

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January 23, 2013 - 4:53 pm

Use a lot of flux and make contact as soon after the solder smokes as possible.

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January 22, 2013 - 2:13 pm

http://www.rcgroups.com/forums.....038;page=6

Post #88

I tried it but I must of had the wrong type of soldier because I could not get it to stick on the exposed traces. So I gave up and bought a v911.

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January 22, 2013 - 12:43 pm

zedorda said
At first I didn't like the mode of the remote for the S800G. Since it is changeable I gave it a try and bought one off Symatoystore.com which took too long to get to me so I looked on Amazon and found it for $21.44 plus I had some gift card credit left. I have not looked back since. Now to mod the remote & battery.

Do you have a link on how to mod the transmitter to Mode 2?

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January 16, 2013 - 12:29 am

Yes that is the same place I bought from.

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January 15, 2013 - 8:35 pm
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Good post-I edited your post to put a link to Cheap Battery Packs - is this the correct company?

"Fly like a butterfly sting like a Syma" http://syma107.com

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January 15, 2013 - 3:26 pm

zedorda said
Soon after I bought my first Syma helicopter a S107G I searched for battery upgrade options. I found an American supplier called CheapBatteryPacks.com that had a couple batteries that might work but one line "Hyperion CX Series" even include s107 as a compatible model. So I went ahead and took the risk and ordered 2 of them at $6.95 each plus shipping. By this time I had ordered my S800G and luckily received everything about 3 days from each other. I was happy to learn that Hyperion includes a loose female plug with the battery and it's male end. Making it real easy to just cut the old battery out and soldering on the female plug. The fit is perfect IMHO. I first tried reusing the two sided foam tape that was on the old battery but there just wasn't enough room with the canopy. So I tried it without it and it fit and doesn't rattle at all with the angular original canopy but the S107G look-a-like canopy doesn't have enough room for this battery. This does add 3 grams to the front of the S800G I took the front weight out of my S107G and used the tail rotor screw to attach it(as seen in pic below). This doesn't completely balance it out but enough to fly without so much constant forward movement but it is still there.

 

Flight Effects:

First thing I noticed was a major increase to response of throttle. If you thought it was hard not to smack the ceiling before this makes it harder but for those moments you need that extra lift you have it. It does add alot of flight time but I have not timed it yet because the motors do get hot and I have been letting it cool after 10mins or so then finishing off the flight after about 2-3mins of cool down time. I don't know the safe temp range of these motors or I would do a constant flight and time it. It also seems like the gyro acts alittle squirrelly on high bank turns. This might be normal because I couldn't do high bank turns before. The added power from this battery has made this heli alot more fun IMO if your looking to challenge yourself.

 

Other Notes: The plug is compatible with most if not all 3.7v Eflight batteries and many others. Charge time is about 1hr 20mins for the light to be fully lit on the USB. This battery fits in the S107G but VERY tight. I had to nearly stretch the canopy to get the screw holes to match up. If you remove the nose weight from the S107G it makes it almost unnoticeable with little to none forward drift.

 

http://i1208.photobucket.com/a.....06176d.jpg

http://i1208.photobucket.com/a.....c59518.jpg

http://i1208.photobucket.com/a.....cf8d78.jpg

 

 

 

 

And just because here is a pic of the beginnings of my fleet with their ssig_cool2 fan in the background .

 

http://i1208.photobucket.com/a.....1d0efd.jpg

 

I plan to buy a charger I found on Amazon that seems compatible.


amazon.com/Thunder-Power-RC-Ultra-Micro-Batteries/dp/B003ZD1184/ref=wl_it_dp_o_pC_nS_nC?ie=UTF8&colid=3HTAXDE80UYZX&coliid=I189NB4271QS9A

 

So far so good. Since I first posted this I have flown both the modified S107G & S800G and they are still going like champs. The new batteries have not had any adverse effects at all. The charge time has reduced it take about 40mins to charge and I get about 16-18mins of flight time with more powerful thrust.

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January 1, 2013 - 1:09 pm

CPD said
I hope that's not just the case for it... looks to me like just the plastic case. Hope it all works out for ya!

Finally received the camera on Dec. 31 2012.  Took 31/2 weeks to arrive from Singapore.

 

Glad to announce it works.  Also staying far away from water.!!!!!!!!!!!surprised

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December 31, 2012 - 5:23 am

I never really checked to feel how hot the motors got in the stock setup. My second S800G arrived so I flew it a full 6-8mins and it was the same as the modified one. I think I was just being overly cautious so I flew the modified S107G and the S800G about 19mins each and the motors didn't get any hotter than with the stock S800G. I will keep posting what happens over the few weeks to see if there is any long term issues. 

 

P.S. I forgot to include the fact that I also flip the rear landing struts around and remove the front screws to slightly move the CoG back and lengthen the stance some. This can also be seen in the pics above.

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December 30, 2012 - 6:32 pm
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Interesting on the weight factor- the motors you mentioned getting hot on a 10 minute fly time,that worries me a little-but hey you seem to be flying ok with the mod.Keep us posted after a few flights how the motors are taking the heat factor. ssig_goodjob2

"Fly like a butterfly sting like a Syma" http://syma107.com

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December 28, 2012 - 9:39 am

Soon after I bought my first Syma helicopter a S107G I searched for battery upgrade options. I found an American supplier called CheapBatteryPacks.com that had a couple batteries that might work but one line "Hyperion CX Series" even include s107 as a compatible model. So I went ahead and took the risk and ordered 2 of them at $6.95 each plus shipping. By this time I had ordered my S800G and luckily received everything about 3 days from each other. I was happy to learn that Hyperion includes a loose female plug with the battery and it's male end. Making it real easy to just cut the old battery out and soldering on the female plug. The fit is perfect IMHO. I first tried reusing the two sided foam tape that was on the old battery but there just wasn't enough room with the canopy. So I tried it without it and it fit and doesn't rattle at all with the angular original canopy but the S107G look-a-like canopy doesn't have enough room for this battery. This does add 3 grams to the front of the S800G I took the front weight out of my S107G and used the tail rotor screw to attach it(as seen in pic below). This doesn't completely balance it out but enough to fly without so much constant forward movement but it is still there.

 

Flight Effects:

First thing I noticed was a major increase to response of throttle. If you thought it was hard not to smack the ceiling before this makes it harder but for those moments you need that extra lift you have it. It does add alot of flight time but I have not timed it yet because the motors do get hot and I have been letting it cool after 10mins or so then finishing off the flight after about 2-3mins of cool down time. I don't know the safe temp range of these motors or I would do a constant flight and time it. It also seems like the gyro acts alittle squirrelly on high bank turns. This might be normal because I couldn't do high bank turns before. The added power from this battery has made this heli alot more fun IMO if your looking to challenge yourself.

 

Other Notes: The plug is compatible with most if not all 3.7v Eflight batteries and many others. Charge time is about 1hr 20mins for the light to be fully lit on the USB. This battery fits in the S107G but VERY tight. I had to nearly stretch the canopy to get the screw holes to match up. If you remove the nose weight from the S107G it makes it almost unnoticeable with little to none forward drift.

 

http://i1208.photobucket.com/a.....06176d.jpg

http://i1208.photobucket.com/a.....c59518.jpg

http://i1208.photobucket.com/a.....cf8d78.jpg

 

 

 

 

And just because here is a pic of the beginnings of my fleet with their ssig_cool2 fan in the background .

 

http://i1208.photobucket.com/a.....1d0efd.jpg

 

I plan to buy a charger I found on Amazon that seems compatible.


colid=3HTAXDE80UYZX&coliid=I189NB4271QS9A

 

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December 28, 2012 - 3:45 am

Nice! This little guy's comming into its own, I think. Not the best for people with bigger, badder helis, since it's controler's not the right mode, but for an intermediate, step up from the s107, it's great. I have two, and absolutely love flying them whenever I can. I give them an A+, just like the s107. And for the same if not slightly lower price point as the 107, (about $20 US on amazon) I'd start recomending getting 800g's after your comfortable with the 107 if you don't have anything bigger and probably will not have anything bigger.

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December 28, 2012 - 1:32 am

At first I didn't like the mode of the remote for the S800G. Since it is changeable I gave it a try and bought one off Symatoystore.com which took too long to get to me so I looked on Amazon and found it for $21.44 plus I had some gift card credit left. I have not looked back since. Now to mod the remote & battery.

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A lot of members wanted a sub forum for the Syma S800G here it is.Review for the Syma S800G http://syma107.com/syma-s800g-review/

"Fly like a butterfly sting like a Syma" http://syma107.com

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December 18, 2012 - 11:35 am

Just received my replacement S800G.  This one worked properly right out of the box.

 

http://www.symahelicopters.com.....efault.asp

 

I will do more business with them.  

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December 11, 2012 - 3:17 am

I hope that's not just the case for it... looks to me like just the plastic case. Hope it all works out for ya!

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December 10, 2012 - 10:47 pm

My S800G will be delivered to the company and my new one hopefully on it's way tomorrow also.

 

Also a new camera is on it's way from here. http://www.symahelicopter.us/S.....Camera-box

 

WOW.  Price went up in a few days.  I paid $10.98.  Hope this is the problem.  The new card I put in was fried in the watery crash.  Other cards I tried didn't work in the camera but the heli flies great.  So I'm assuming the board is ok.  I'll find out soon.

 

Even  if the camera doesn't work, I'll still have a great helicopter and the wonderful transmitter.  

 

I recommend everyone that has an S107G order a 107C for the transmitter alone.  It will make flying alot more fun. 

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December 5, 2012 - 7:46 pm
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leadsled said
I am very pleased to report that the company did send me an RMA# for the defective S800G.  I am sure that the replacement will be just fine.  

 

On the positive side, I am now fairly familiar with fine tuning an S800G.

 

Can't wait to get the new one.

 

Now I need  to find a replacement camera for the S107C I ruined in a water crash on it's maiden flight.  Not sure if it's the camera or the connection on the helicopter side.Embarassed

That is also good to hear you got response back from them and getting replacement--have not bought from them my self so can not really comment how good they are-keep us posted SFSmile

"Fly like a butterfly sting like a Syma" http://syma107.com

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December 5, 2012 - 1:39 am

Good to hear they're going to replace it. Hope you can replace that camera! I guess next time you'll have to make sure to put away the dog's bowl. (or figure out some way to create a water-sealed case for the camera. lol)

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