Syma S107 On Steroids

Syma S107 Mad Flying Tips-by Matt

Matt if I may call him by that name sent me an email which is below on his crazy flying mods for the Syma S107G, also some photos,this guy is crazy but a great Syma Freak like me.Well worth the read of his email and view photos at the bottom of post-Thanks buddy-another legend-This is so cool to get these emails

 Syma S107 On Steroids Awesome Syma S107 Mod

Email received-This is written totally by Matt:

Hehe, yeah they do drift a lot, but when it's calm, intentional drifting is a LOT of fun with the power and agility the described mods achieve. Very much like doing donuts in a car, only much more fun! Today I managed to drift with very nearly ninety degrees yaw angle, so the nose of the chopper almost points to the centre of the circle I am flying - well probably around 80 degrees or so. The closer you get to 90, the closer you are to crashing, but the cooler it looks! It almost looks like the chopper has a 4th channel, because it is going sideways more than forwards.

A good trick is to fly a very wide circle, maybe fifteen metres diameter, slowly. Then, carefully speed up, correcting rudder so the circle does not get wider, and then adding a little extra rudder to make the circle tighter. Slowly increasing speed and rudder leads to a tight and fast circle, down to maybe three metres diameter at insane speed.

The only reliable way to get out of it without crashing is either a) to reverse the whole procedure and gradually decrease rudder and speed, or b) if you have enough space, just suddenly give full throttle and stop any rudder input, which will make the chopper shoot out of the circle in a straight line - after which it takes it a good 30 metres or more to level out and slow down, so leave the circle *towards* you so it gets closer to you at first before zooming past you, otherwise it gets very small very quickly. I have the feeling if you do it right, your chopper might end up as the first micro aircraft model leaving earth's orbit.

I think having a fourth channel on them would probably make them *easier* to fly, not more difficult as many people seem to think. Much more chances to correct something you messed up before. Then again, I'd probably push that as far as I can as well, and end up right at the edge of what is possible again...

I think actually in my case flight time only seems shorter since the modding, because a) I hardly land anymore in between, and b) I am using the tail rotor more, and c) that means that now I'm also having the throttle set higher for more of the time, because otherwise, the increased forward tilt means it loses altitude. The cold may be a factor, but maybe not the biggest one, after all... if you do find out about that, would be good to know though.

It's great to share, take your time, I know it's a lot of stuff I emailed you. One of the disadvantages of being able to type really fast... 🙂

Again, great to be able to meet people online who share the same passion, so much to learn, and with many people sharing ideas, it's a case of "1+1=more than two". Bouncing ideas is great. Without the internet, we would probably all think that we're the only "S107 freak" in the universe, hehe.

See attached photos, hope they explain the whole thing.

I wish I could send you a video to show what it does now, but didn't get my hands on a video camera yet, also have to find a fast camera operator!!

Cheers,

Matt

PS: Think I really need to put a red downwards tail LED into the boom end. Just flew over a pretty high power line on the street again, with extra clearance because it was dark and distance difficult to judge, meaning I ended up probably twice as high than the power line; but then the only means of determining which direction the chopper is pointing is to give forward throttle and see in which direction the little LED dot in the sky moves...

PPS: I heated up the tips of the wire with a lighter to melt the holes through the lens. The front ends are bent only to prevent me from poking someone's eyes out with them, no technical reason. Might make it nicer some day.

PPPS: I almost had a crash with a driving car tonight. It was dark, there is hardly any traffic here at that time, but of course the one car that drove by the whole evening did that just as I was exiting a fast circle on one side of the street, and across the street was the only space where I could go at that speed.

All I could do when the car came around the sharp bend in which we live (where cars typically go around 25-35 km/h) was to give wild rudder and turn sharply into the direction the car was also going, ending up flying ahead right in front of the windscreen for a second or two before getting away to the side.

At one point, I must have been about two metres away from it at most. The people didn't stop, so either they didn't even notice it, or they thought they are seeing things that aren't there, or maybe they thought they don't want to meet the freak who is holding the remote... lucky I didn't smash into the side window, I wouldn't be surprised if that would shatter it, since side windows are mostly flat and not that strong. Then how would I get the chopper back??? Not to self: Must be more careful with cars.
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Main Email from Matt

Hi,

just wanted to share the results of this evening's experiments, thinking they might be an interesting addition to your web page, which has already helped me out quite a few times before.

If you let me know your email address, I will email you photos of the remote mod, which will help people to replicate it easily; and pictures I have taken with night vision to show the different focus width of the infrared beam on a wall, which helps to understand and visualise the potential of this mod.

I learned a hell of a lot through these mods and am still learning, and would highly recommend them to anyone who feels that they have their S107 ‘under control’ now after having had it for a while.

Disclaimer: I have zero affiliation with Syma, and I gain nothing from writing this but the joy of knowing that others will be able to experience what I do right now, and maybe see some cool videos online soon of all your new adventures after doing these mods!

For reference: Being a complete remote chopper beginner, I have accumulated about eight fun hours (yes, hours, not battery charges) of very experimental air time without shying away from crashes with the unmodified chopper before I did this. I am constantly pushing myself to see what else I can do. The leading edges of the blades at one point looked like a saw blade, but other than that, it pretty much still looks in excellent shape – despite the fact that I have worked out that because of my style of flying, this chopper has crashed at least three hundred times, no exaggeration. I think if you don’t crash, you don’t learn (caution: only applies to model aircraft!). There was no catastrophic damage at any point. These crashes cost me one rotor head, one set of blades, two tail rotors, one of those little distance pieces between the canopy and the frame, and I had to readjust the gears a few times. I think for how hard I have been putting it through its paces and still am, this is outstanding.

By the way, I always let the battery cool down for fifteen minutes before and after charging, and after about 70 charges, it is now tangibly nearing the end of its life time, which I think is pretty ok for how cheap it is to replace.

MODS PART I: High speed, more agility, faster responses, longer flight time

What I did: This part might not be new to many, but I think I can add another perspective to it. Removed the plastic parts of the rear fuselage (small horizontal and vertical wing) and the two lower beams of the boom. In addition, took both weights out of the flybar, and didn’t put their caps back on either.

Result: Both the downwash from the rotors and the headwind – a significant factor at the now radically increased speeds – do not push down on the boom fuselage anymore, and there is less weight in the rear, both contributing to more forward tilt when giving forward throttle. The much reduced weight in the flybar means that the chopper reacts ridiculously fast to throttle changes now and literally jumps off the ground into the air, and it also extends flight time somewhat because there is less weight that has to be kept in the air.

Effect: The S107 creeps forward slowly by itself, which is undesirable - but it absolutely screams along at insane speed when I give full forward! Found that I hardly was able to go full throttle at first, simply because it is quite hard to keep it under control that way. The problem is twofold: When going that fast, say, away from me, and then turning a corner to come back that is anything but very careful, it gathers momentum like a space ship doing a sling shot around a planet, and comes shooting back towards me and flies past me EVEN faster than it already was before! This is why:

The chopper turns around very quickly, so it is pointing back towards me while the momentum is still carrying it BACKWARDS to an extent, meaning because of its forward tilt it gets pushed up a bit, and tilts forward even more, resulting in more of the main rotors’ power being used for forward thrust. That means it is now tilted forward so hard that it takes all the motors’ power to keep it from loosing altitude, and it takes a good 25 metres or so to level out again even if I completely let go of the throttle right after the “slingshot corner”. I can make it slow down faster by applying reverse throttle, because that means that the tail rotor is pushing down, lifting the nose, and thus more of the rotor power is applied upwards than downwards; in these high speed situations, the tail rotor almost functions as an elevator.

But there’s a trap to that: It is easy to overdo that so that the nose of the chopper actually points upwards, and the insane momentum which is still pushing the chopper forward then makes it climb rapidly, which can lead to more exposure to wind and makes it harder to see its orientation at times, but most importantly it means this: If you apply sharp rudder while it is pointing upwards with the nose, all you do is rotate the chopper so that then the nose is pointing downwards steeply, and you are now at a forward tilt that will result in even higher forward speed than before, which often is uncontrollable. You can keep doing this from one ‘sling shot’ to the next, and it’s exhilarating fun to do, but also extremely hard to keep under control.

Normally, I run either out of space or, when outside on a calm day with little sunshine, out of remote reach, before the chopper has levelled out and returned to a normalish speed that I can dare to take the next corner at to bring it back to me again. Another effect, probably of removing the vertical fin, is that it corners faster now, which combined with the speed means you have to be very careful and delicate with the sticks; it takes a lot less rudder now to achieve the same effect as before the mod, and cornering too fast means the chopper is starting to kind of skid sideways, which easily leads to crashes as it is very hard to control.

The flybar mod means three things: Throttle changes have a much, much faster response now, which is hard to control but also necessary to keep the chopper under control when flying corners at high speed; in addition, for some reason I have the feeling that while the flybar mod makes the chopper a tiny bit less stable and a bit more “edgy” during harmless flying situations, it seems a lot more capable of being controlled in difficult situations now; and finally, it has tangibly reduced blade strike, which sometimes happens when the chopper is grabbed by a sudden sideways gust of wind, especially when decending at a fast decent rate from higher altitudes at the time.

Without the flybar mod, I find that the speed is not controllable; with the flybar mod, the necessary fast throttle changes can provide the response that is necessary now – as long as YOU are fast enough, that is! Another side effect of the massive gain in top speed is that I can now fly in higher “winds” than before. I always enjoy flying outside when there is a bit of air movement going on, and improve my skills by managing not to crash. That so far was very limited by the lack of forward thrust; the chopper often just drifted away without being able to work against the moving air – that is not the problem anymore, now I am the limiting factor most of the time (unless there’s real wind, of course, which is a hurricane for the little S107).

MODS PART II: 30+ m remote reach

What I did: This in all likelihood you have not heard of before; at least I never came across this mod anywhere on the net before. I made a contraption from a wire coat hanger that allows me to place one of those one dollar credit card sized fresnel lenses (or magnifying glasses / reading aids from the optometrist) in front of the infrared LEDs underneath the center blue cap at the front of the remote. I can slide the lens forth and back to adjust the distance to the LEDs. As long as it’s reasonably centred in regards to the LEDs, don’t worry too much to get it perfectly aligned, it makes little difference.

Result: I can adjust how much exactly I want to focus the normally very wide beam of the infrared LEDs, narrowing down the beam, but dramatically increasing its reach, just like a focusable flashlight – as long as you point the infrared beam at the helicopter. For indoor flying, I can just ‘unclick” the wire contraption from the remote.

Effect: At the tightest focus point, which with my lens is about five centimeters away from the LEDs, I have achieved 50+ metres of reach with this! Before you get too excited I must admit that that is not workable in practise though, because the beam is so tightly focused that it is next to impossible to make sure the beam stays on the helicopter. In reality, about roughly two cm away from the LEDs is what I prefer now.

That setting gives me about 25 metres reach, which means the chopper can now fly 50 metres in a straight line, compared to about 20-25 metres before; and the beam is still wide enough that it is not too hard to learn to keep the chopper within the beam by pointing the remote’s LEDs directly towards it at all times, which most of the time comes pretty naturally anyway. I wouldn’t want to go much further with the chopper anyway, because at its size and new speed it becomes pretty hard to see which orientation it is in then. When learning to fly with that, note that at least in my remote, the LED’s are angled upwards a little; check yours so you know for sure where the beam goes, and align the lens with that. The increase in freedom is absoultely incredible!

Now I can actually use the power achieved with the mod in part I, and what the S107 can do now is really impressive. I can fly high speed circles with the nose pointing towards the inside of the circle with a yaw angle of a good 45 degrees; which looks very cool and dynamic, and actually takes some time to learn to control because if you overdo it, you loose control. I can do said “slingshot manoever” to do low passes at insane speeds, where the challenge is to keep it under control at the far end, turn it round and bring it back without crashing. I have flown up to the top of our house today, which means the chopper was about ten metres high and a good 15 to 20 metres away from me, and that was well within reach, no problems.

It was not perfectly calm today, but I’m planning to fly over the house from one side to the other when conditions are good while walking around it myself. I am not quite ready yet to fly it over the river nearby, which is about 25 metres wide… we’ll see. As a side effect of this mod, the chopper seems somewhat less vulnerable to sunlight interference; I can now fly outdoors in brighter conditions than I could before.

CONCLUSION: With these two simple mods, the S107 gets dramatically faster, several times more responsive both to rudder and throttle, and has more then double the remote reach at the very least. It truly turns it into a completely different bird, which to fly inside the house is still very possible, but the lack of space is now really limiting in comparison to what it can actually do now.

It may not be made for outside out of the box, but with these mods, while you can still fly it inside and have fun, it now clearly wants to have more space and let it rip. So contrary to what the manufacturer says, don’t be afraid to go outside – lawn is soft and more gentle to your chopper than most things in your living room, and as long as there is not a sunny day and not too much air movement, you will have a blast!

I prefer to fly in the morning or evening, just before the sun really comes up, or just after it is low enough that there is no direct sunlight anymore. Overcast days are great, too. On sunny days, any fully shaded area will work as well, like in the shade of a forest, cliffs, really big rocks, houses or similar.

Just be careful: With the new speed, I would definitely not want it to smash into my head anymore, even though it’s “only” 30 grams. I would not be surprised if you can break a window with it now. I am not going to try.

If you feel that without modifications you are reaching the limits of what the S107 can do, and would like to go further, this is the way I would recommend. Try to fly with as much soft lawn around you as possible, be prepared for quite a few crashes especially at the beginning, and accept that you will break parts more often than before the mod while you are learning – partially because you will be crashing more often, and partially because you are now crashing at about at least two to three times the speed over ground, and sometimes from much higher altitude as well. The effort and replacement parts are more than worth it – you won’t get the grin out of your face anymore once you get the hang of it.

In my opinion, the S107 was great off the shelf already. I never had a chopper before, I learned fast with it, and I have rarely if ever got more fun per dollar before. With the described modifications, it is pushing me to learn more about flight dynamics, orientation, and everything else related to flying a chopper. Its limitations, especially the lack of a fourth channel, do serve to teach some lessons as well; I see them as a challenge rather than a limitation, at least until I feel that I have fully mastered my ‘new’ S107 – and I know that will take me some months at least.

I would like to see these following improvements: Radio control; a fourth channel; increased flight time and / or an easily exchangeable battery which still sits inside the canopy, and not between the skids; and a continuously on front LED light instead of blinking, plus a tiny LED at the rear of the boom continuously shining downwards in a different colour, because at 20 to 40 metres flying altitude and at night or during dusk or dawn, it is getting really difficult at times to know the orientation of the bird! These LED’s could also be a lot less bright than the current front one is, by the way. That much light is not needed for orientation, and I found that with the LED disconnected, the flight time is about one minute longer, and I don’t really need the light unless it is dark. A micro switch like the on/off switch to only use the LED when needed would be a bonus, and would add many times more flight time than its little bit of weight would take away.

These improvements would probably add at least 50% to the price tag, but I would happily pay that. The missing fourth channel is the real limiting factor in going round corners at high speeds now – on the other hand I feel that that very fact teaches me a lot about flight dynamics, and fine tunes my skills.

I have flown it for six weeks without modification now; I have done about half an hour of flight time after doing these modifications; and I think I will fly it for months at least with those modifications before I might… well… probably more like, will… feel the itch to upgrade to something that pushes me even more.

I am eying the e-flite Blade MSR as the next step up, and then later possibly the Blade MCP-X. Together, these three little choppers will keep me busy learning and enjoying myself silly for quite a while I think.

I hope this was useful and interesting for some people to read – if you do these mods, I hope to see some of your flying adventures on youtube soon!

Happy flying!

Matt

Some Mad Photos below by Matt on the Syma S107 Mod

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Thank you Matt for your input on the Syma S107-will give some people a few ideas.

Disclaimer: Matt and my self are not responsible for any modifications you do on your Syma S107-Please consider any mods you do on the Syma S107 will effect your warranty on this helicopter so think before you do any changes in spec or mods to your Syma helicopter:

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These pictures were sent to me By Another Syma Freak like me on Fake Syma S107 Helicopters.

His name is Ethan, let me tell you these photos are put together by Ethan for the love of buying genuine Syma S107G Helis-

Enjoy and thank you Ethan for your hard work and input

Let us start with Genuine photos of the Syma S107

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Now Some Fake Syma S107 Photos-From Ethan

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Fake Syma S107 Motors

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Disclaimer:You must realize that this is the view from a Syma S107G freak like me Ethan-All photos are supplied by Ethan to the best of his knowledge to be correct-However you must do your own research on this-It is not correct to hammer Amazon if you think you have a fake or clone unless your Syma S107 does not fly correctly out of the box-Best to contact me first to see what the problem really is-Contact Me

Again thank you Ethan for all your time and effort to produce these photos on the Syma S107 I know you did it for the love of it but I feel it really helps people to understand more about the Syma Helicopters and the scam merchants out there downgrading a cool helicopter-Take care and thank you again---SF

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JXD 340 Drift King Mini Review

JXD 340 Drift King 4CH RC Helicopter w/ Gyro

Jxd3401-drift-helicopterYou guys know me as the Syma Freak-no I am not jumping ship here, however I am always on the look to see if their is competition for the Syma Helis, especially my baby the Syma S107

I came across this mini bird JXD 340 Drift King that interested me because it is a 4 channel heli: To explain more-Let me put some specs  below:

SPECIFICATION

* Body Length: 250mm
* Width: 50mm
* Height: 115mm
* Main Rotor Diameter: 200mm
* Total Weight: 41g
* Battery for helicopter: Rechargeable Li-polymer Battery
* Charging Time: Approx 30-40 Minutes
* Flight Time: 5-7 Minutes
* Control Distance: 15m or less
* Battery for controller: 6 AA batteries (Not Included)

ITEM INCLUDED

* Helicopter x 1
* Remote Controller x 1
* USB Cable x 1

PACKING
Per Unit

* Dimension :46 x 19 x 9cm
* Gross Weight : 543g

* Dimension: 54 x 48 x 39cm
* Gross Weight: 7,560g

My Experience With The JXD 340 Drift King:

The S107 is a great 3 channel. The controls are different for the 4 channel JXD 340. The throttle will be on the left stick on both transmitters but the elevator to go back and forth, and the rudder will be both on the right stick on the S107.
Providing the transmitter used by the JXD 340 is set up as a "mode 2", the rudder for yaw will be on the left together with throttle, and the elevator, and aileron will be on the right stick.My personal opinion it can be difficult to learn both types in your beginner flying experience. It may actually be more difficult for guys that have been flying 2 and 3 channel exclusively.

I bought from Ebay-bad move, parcel was damaged and missing USB charge cable-luck was had a few spare cables that fitted ok-Took a hour to charge and gave me less than 3 minutes flying, not a happy camper at this stage. Paypal is trying to resolve this problem-just been unlucky. hence hate Ebay some times-However have got one from Amazon I buy a lot of helis from them and like their backup to return goods.

So a little pissed off as really wanted to do a review of the JXD 340 Drift King- However stay with me here-have a friend that has one and reckons flies well.You know me guys I love Syma helicopters and always see if there is a better indoor mini heli out there-My Syma S107 Review

07/22/2011 Well have been flying the Drift King for awhile now-my verdict-takes ages to charge,only gets me four minutes of flying and gets a bit bogged down and needs to keep throttle up-All in all not bad to fly but not a patch on the Syma S107-only my opinion. Especially now with the Syma s800g that drifts

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Comments are more than welcome on the JXD Drift King below-Tell me your experience with this heli if you have bought one-guess I will stick with the Syma Helis at this stage as have heaps of them and I can fly these birds like hell-found this link to a forum on the JXD RcGroups hope it works ok.

Just got a great email from Shawn on his first flight with a JXD 340 Drift King----

Hello, just opened my eBay Drift King. Superstition Hobby did a great job on shipping. I have 2 Promptness Speed 3 ch helicopters, those 2 where my first and only until I  got the JXD. Wow! What a difference. My JXD flies the normal length time. The round knob on upper right of controller is Sweet. Trim knob. I don't have a lot of time flying, but I will say the JXD is very smooth, and super nice to fly.(Shawn sent me a video below)

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Micro Syma S110G Review

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Well Syma has done it again with a new Syma micro helicopter the Syma S110G I have ordered one from Amazon  which has not arrived yet,but a friend that travels to China and a heli freak bought me one back. Going to check when I get one from Amazon to see not a fake- Boy this is a little guy, it is around length only 13.3cm, I thought the Syma S107 was small which as you guys know I love and have heaps of them.

Having only had this micro bird for a day, guess should have waited a little longer with many flights before doing a review, but hey I can add to the post as time goes by.

Here are some specs on the Syma S110G:

  • Material: ABS, Alloy Metal Body/Canopy
  • LED Strobe to flash for night flight
  • Suitable for indoor flight only
  • Dual propeller system
  • Full function 3 channel radio control w/ Built in Gyro
  • Flight stabilizing system
  • Super lightweight airframe
  • Brake for easy landing
  • Battery type: 3.7v Lithium-Polymer (Li-Poly) Battery
  • Charging time: 30 minutes ( Controller) and approx 11 minutes (USB charging)
  • Run time per charge: approx 5 minutes control distance: 10-15 m

Same sought of specs for the Syma S107 but a few different things happening with this bird-One is the remote has a completely different look-pic below.

Syma-S110G-RemoteBit more robust and has flashing front light on the one I have, controls feel a bit tighter and firmer to use-I would still love to see a remote that is not infra red, guess crazy to fly this girl out side, with infra red no can do, and as like the Syma S107 do not fly near a digital TV set as will drop out of the sky.

Battery charging the same as the Syma s107 by usb or remote, Syma says 11 minutes charging by usb I found that to be a little longer, however I really exhausted the battery and heli just spun on the floor-Please do not do that your selves as will screw your battery-max 5 minutes of flying then wait 15 minutes before recharging battery to let cool down-I keep telling people this as you will not get much battery life if you keep charging with out a cool down time between flights.

Photos Courtesy of  RcFever

Syma-S110G-2Syma-S110G-4Here is a crazy video I found on Youtube, is in German, guy just seems to want to smash the Syma S110G to death,guess shows how strong this bird is———-

Now should you buy this over the Syma S107? Because I started with the Syma S107 which is some what bigger I see no reason for around $20 not to buy the Syma S110G, found it to be quicker in forward and backward flights as really a micro, which of course the smaller the better for some people-

I really have to say not tested the Syma S110G as much as the Syma S107, so still feel at this time to first buy the Syma S107 then progress to other helis, no not knocking the S110G at all, but this bird is small and have not had enough crashes as yet, is really stable tho,but like a few weeks of flying to determine any problems. So stay posted-
To me a small micro version of the S107, but hey so far I really like it, so do my friends as most can fly it out of the box like the S107 and enjoy the micro size-

Let me do some more flights and report then-If you are interested in buying this attractive micro heli I have bought from Amazon and Banggood as has them in stock for $24 plus postage, have found a few on Amazon as this is a new heli from Syma still not many cheap deals as yet- Link to Amazon Syma S110G 

Will be updating post as I CRANK my Syma S110G,stay posted:

08/22/2011

I like this girl but for me the Syma S107 is just more fun-no not trying to put you off the Syma S110g but a lover of the S107 as guess my first best heli- My view buy the S107 first then build on your garage of Syma helicopters as I have done-Really love them all, but the Syma S107 just stands out to me-Any comments appreciated!

01/09/ Now on my second S110G  My first one had really bad charging problems, just to slow,the problem after stripping down was a bad solder join.The battery charge point under the heli to me is a bit weak as you are pushing into plastic, so be gentle. On and off switch on heli also found a bit weak and hard to determine which way to turn on, after a few times knew which way.

I also feel remote controls not as direct as the Syma S107  and a bit of lag going forward and back, it also bogs down on forward and back motion so you have to give a bit more throttle. All in all ok for someone that has flown a Syma S107 first,I would not recommend this heli to a beginner. I have had emails from people saying really happy with it, however they admitted never flown a Syma S107. Again to repeat my self, buy the Syma S107G first.Talk soon.

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This is a quick up date of how I am going flying the Syma S107 Remote Helicopter as of  12/14/2010

I am unhappy-My best little girl in fact my first Syma S107 that got me hooked has just died a slow death.

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She took off had some great spins and started to descend after 2 minutes of flying to the floor- No puff left to rise up-She looked really sad just spinning on the floor: I was devastated-This had been with me for at least 2 months and harassed my dog who was happy to see my Syma die at my feet-So many hours of flying-so much fun-What should I do- Dig a hole and bury my greatest friend -NO NEVER

I gently took the canopy off my mate to find a swollen weeping battery!! I held the tears back- Was this my fault??

After some deep meditation and talking to my Syma mates on forums I had asked too much from here, especially her power force the battery-

After every flight I charged her-Then another flight-Did I  ever consider her battery-No never-Did I ever let the battery cool down before charging- NEVER!!

Ok let me get real here-This great heli will keep flying but you have to have respect for her power force ("May The Force Be With You" some BS)

As posted before on battery care -Realize this is really crucial for any remote helicopter or plane is battery care- They must cool down between charging-At least 15 minutes-Hard shit I know, however face the facts. Your trusted Syma S107 will die if you do not care for her.

Happiness is abound- Implant a new power force

As you can tell quiet mad on Remote Toys but the biggest problem we have is not letting the battery cool down before recharging-This is for any remote RC product.

12/15/2010 My Syma S107 is awaiting a new battery- Need to feel those blades swishing air in my face as she spins around me-Sensible up date soon.

03/23/2011 Good news, fitted new battery and flying my original Syma S107G again: Since then have bought 4 more with out a remote from Focalprice - yes mad I know but they give me so much fun. I buy them for friends on their birthday and presents for last Christmas-Going to approach my local hospital to see if can give some to the children ward-Will see if companies like Focalprice  might help on the cost, as really not flushed with spare cash at the moment-Will keep you guys posted on my crazy idea!!

08/01/12   Yes I am still cranking all Syma Helicopters, my latest is the Syma S800G 4 channel heli that you can drift right or left. I did a review here really a neat bird to fly.As said on review could be a bit of competition to the Syma S107g. Come on guys get a Syma heli.. you will crank some huge fun.

Above all leave some crazy comments so I know not totally alone out there Lol

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Reference for this modification is from www.micro-helicopters.net

1. The battery is not holding its charge as long as it should do. The symptoms of this can be short flight time like only a minute or two and taking too long to charge before light goes out on USB charge connector. Can also cause Syma S107 to spin and not take off-Just not enough battery power.

2. You Might also want to get longer and better fly time compared to the stock Syma S107 battery she has fitted.

3: Most problems happen because you are hammering that poor old battery by re_charging without letting it cool down. It gets hot between flights and needs at least 10- 15 minutes cool down between charges-Otherwise guess it gets over charged and really bloats and screws the cells in simple terms-Follow This Tip! for battery life-buy two Syma S107 so one is always ready for flight and time to cool battery.- : Serious : Then you are always flying dude!!

Getting a Syma S107 Replacement Battery

Obviously, the safest approach is to insert a original replacement battery to ensure that all is as factory. To do this you'll need to find a battery with same specs as the Syma  S107 original battery. Here is a site to buy a stock replacement battery.

If you want to get a longer fly time better than original Syma battery you will need to get a5.6g 240mah battery. Bearing in mind this is a heavier battery, balance can then be a problem and some weight on the tail might be advised. Be careful going in this direction unless you know what you are doing.

Instructions below:

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Syma_s107_canopy_screwsUn-clip canopy

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Red and Black wires-Cut with care

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syma107-battery-repairJoin Wires.

Use Liquid Electrical Tape-Easier

Insert New Battery

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Attach canopy with two screws

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Re -charge-if flight not good it will be a balance problem: Re adjust battery position: I attach the wires by electrical tape- But better still is to use Liquid Electrical Tape -you could use a plastic heat tube-to me to much work as many flights later the battery will die again. Make sure Main rotors lines up with the center of BLADES.

Spare Parts for Syma S107- Here

Reference for this modification is from  www.micro-helicopters.net great site to visit-good info and straight shooter!

And some photos from RcDiscuss

Battery Mod Update 06/15/2011: Modification by Dale.Really neat way to put different battery on the Syma S107. View Post Here

 

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Clones And Fake Syma S107

Clones And Fake Syma S107 rc Helicopters

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A clone was a copy of  original product: A fake is To contrive and present as genuine; counterfeit.

As you can see there is a difference: I have a clone Syma S107 with the word Yiboo on the canopy instead of Syma S107-Yiboo is a company in Houston that gets remote rc toys from China registered as "YALCIN KARADAG" Gets interesting does it not. Explained on Home page some of the boxes the Syma S107 is packed in -So will go over this in more detail as I feel it is your first heads up if it is a fake Syma S107.

This box below has Syma S107 G on it and Syma logo-Feel you are safe if comes in this box.

Syma_S_107_boxThis is not the greatest photo-however this was a box my first Syma S107 arrived in-This is the one with Yiboo on the canopy. Photo below of Syma received-This is a clone,well built and perfect to fly.

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This Syma S107 is still flying well after 30 plus flights the best I ever bought-This is a clone-all Syma parts just re badged to Yiboo-Many years ago in Australia where I live we had the "Button Plan" where by Ford could sell the Mazda 323 with a Ford badge on it calling the car from memory Ford 1.6 323-guess you get my gist-clones are not all bad fakes are tho.

S107_fake_boxThis box is fake to me as has no Syma Logo-I bought three from Ebay seller for $17 a piece-each one was a dud-batteries would not charge,one just kept spinning and never flew-one remote had remote throttle control stuck in full position,also canopy black glass  was frosty and not shinny-To me these could have been company rejects that the Ebay seller bought, or they were dropped shipped directly to me-Never sent them back-kept one for spares and fixed the others-Even the quality of the alloy frame was poorly molded and marked. Did give seller a poor review on Ebay.

Always if you can buy from your local store or Amazon. Be very careful buying cheap on Ebay as I mentioned bought 3 cheap and duds. I will keep looking for better on line stores for you to buy from.

Other Fake Syma S107 Signs To Watch For.

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The main blade holder of fake S107 is made of metal, the genuine one is in pure black color. The main blade of the genuine Syma S107 have a few lines about the warning. However, the fake one only have the word “WARNING"- photo below shows extra writing on blades which is correct Something to check.

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This is just what I have observed as love the Syma s107 because the correct bought ones are just a beauty to fly and I hate to feel people will buy a fake and hate the Syma and at worst never fly a mini-heli ever again- All written here are my observations and views always research yourself on any helicopter you are going to buy.

Emails Received:

Unfortunately this was sent to me with no name- Always worth different views to help get the best advice for Syma Freaks like me:

Thank you from the unnamed-Always connect with me if you see your email you sent me:

Hello I see your really into these little heli's and your site is really in depth on them so I figured I would share with you.

I received what I feel is a bogus or clone syma that I got from amazon (so they get them too) but wanted to share things to look for that I noticed. In the real one the remote's left stick spring loaded as is the fake but the real one uses a spring for this, the fake has some kind of spring box inside. Also the back of the remotes the texture is diffrent, the real one is textured on the handles of the remote and as for the clone it is smooth.

Another difference the real one has writing on it's chip inside the heli and the fake does not. Also the fake is missing a part inside looks bare compared to the real one. You mention the little black piece connecting the blades being metal in fake ones but my fake has a black one same as the real one also the blades are correct aswell with the writing and warning sign on my fake. Also another thing is the motors, the real syma's have one with a black top and one white top and the wires are coordinated between the 2 and the fake are not these colores 1 is pink and one green. Also on the real ones the gyro bar the tips are round and on the fake the ends are more flat.

If you want to know I got the clone from Pro Ebiz LLC aka Pyrus Electronics and the real ones I have from Superstition Hobbies both are sellers on Amazon.  Hope it helps make your site even better. If you have any questions feel free to write back.

Thanks for your input-SF

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Email from Michael Stevenson

Hello SF:

Superstition Hobbies is a Authorized Direct Imported/Distributor of SYMA Helicopters And Parts Directly from SYMA Toys Industrial Co. LTD of China. It seems though that there are some other S107 Helicopters being sold on Amazon as SYMA that may not be made by SYMA.

The ones we have found currently to be questionable have certain differences than the Genuine SYMA S107G here are a few.

2. The Motors #S107-16 and #S107-17 the tops are green and red if they are? Genuine is Black and White.

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3. The wiring on the motors are red and white and blue and black if it is? Original Red and Blue and Black and White.

4. Circuit board has a red flashing light in the middle of it if it does? Genuine is Yellow or Green

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5. Circuit board should have writing on it of “S107R5” if not possible fake?

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6. The tail rotor is a different has a flat tip if so? Genuine is rounded.

I am currently working with SYMA Toys Industrial Co. LTD of China to see what we can be done about this.  I have a Letter from Syma acknowledging these diffrences.

If it does meet any of these descriptions above then it is a duplicate/fake SYMA S107 according to SYMA Toys Industrial Co. LTD .

Unfortunately the Company I have found to be selling the fakes is Amazon Corporation them selves. I have purchased samples from Amazon Corp and the are confirmed that they are fake Syma S107's.

Just thought you might be interested in this bit of information.

Michael Stevenson

Thank you for your input Michael-True from Ebay to Amazon people will try to make dollars selling fakes: Your info is very helpful to all- I buy mostly from Amazon as never had a fake from them-Amazon has a great return policy that helps to protect buyers-with your information and the rest of this post makes people realize there are some sharks out there-

7th August- I have created another page with more photos of Genuine Syma S107 and Fakes-These photos were emailed to me by Ethan also a passionate flyer of the  Syma S107 -View Here

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I wanted just to talk about the world of remote controlled indoor mini helicopters and the reasons to start out in this exciting hobby especially the mini remote helicopters and where it can lead you to and the fun and costs.

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Testimonials On Syma S107

Amazon Testimonials on Syma S107

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BY: J.WARD ON AMAZON

I ordered this helicopter along with 3 other helicopters. 3 from Syma and one off brand helicopter. I ordered multiple helicopters because the only ones I have flown have been 2 channel and if one broke I would have backup.
I ordered the Syma S107 and S105 at the same time, and the S107 arrived first and the S105 arrived the next day. On my frist flight of the S107 I was suprised how stable and smooth the flight was. The box says 14 and up but I think anyone could control this helicopter. It goes up, down, left, right, forward, and backwards, all at a balanced speed thats good for indoor flight.

It is not too slow to be boring or too fast that you can't controll it. The trim button on the controller is pretty much not needed because it does not spin out of control. I still havnt adjusted the trim after about 20 flights. Also, both Syma helicopters are VERY durable since they are made of metal and hard plastic. The blades are also durable. There are some differences in the S107 and S105. The S105 is slightly wider and slightly longer. It also has two LED lights on each side and one in the front, a total of 6, which can be cool or annoying, it just depends on preference.

The s107 has a single light on the front. The S105 seems to spin out more than the S107 and is more difficult to trim. This is an obvious flaw that was addressed with the newer S107, because it does not spin out at all. They both can be charged with the controller or through a USB port on your computer which is good if you don't want to waste your batteries on your controller. They both use 6 AA batteries in the controller. Both helicopters are extremely durable and have been crashed several times.

My only complaint with them is the flight time is only around 5 minutes, although I don't have anything to compare it to because the other 2 helicopters I ordered are still not here yet after about a week and a half. Also, the only option for shipping is standard shipping. Overall I would recommend the S107 over the S105 because of the trim issue with the S105, but both are excellent helicopters and they are a very good price.

Another Amazon Review

BY: FLY 4 God "flyingbroker

I am not a Heli expert but can say I have owned an Electric Falcon with Auto Pilot ($250-350), a Coco Lama (great heli $75) and the first micro heli($19). The s107 is fun and VERY stable, you really can't ask for more, it will go back and forward very easily, it would literally be a work of engineering at this price if it had better turning. Let me explain- it vertical controls are quick and presice, it goes up and down very easy and with power, it turns to the right or left by a light touch. What it is lacking is horizontal yaw.

But guess what it's a toy and so cheap that I must say outside of this it's a blast! I love my Coco Lama, its bigger and worth every penny, yet this micro is sturdy and has great controls, it's a steal for 30-35 total, its built very well and strong, I truly believe its going to be around a long time and if not the parts are cheap. I truly believe it could go for $70-100 so it's the best bang for the buck! I hear there is a walker out there that is great but its $100.

I question how much better and fully applaud Syma and Xheli for making it cheap. I also feel it's a great learner heli, oh yes. You get this thing down when you step up will have the basics down. BUY it! For this price it's a 5 You will not be wasting money its worth every penny!

I got a great review from this lady and she did a video and sent to me -I am so wrapped-forget she is stunning to look at, but i need to say thank you-Sexy Lady

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