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leadsled
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November 30, 2012 - 8:40 pm
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Just received a Syma S800G!!!!

 

All it does is flop to the left.  Will not take off!!!!!!

 

Tried the S107G controller.  It took off straight, but had no other control.

 

I think transmitter is bad!

 

Please help!

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Well, they had a bad batch of remotes, (unfortunatly mine was one of them, but I had done too much to the heli and liked it too much to send it back, so I think I'll wait until january or febuary and get a 2nd one without saying there was a problem) but I don't know if that's the issue.

 

By getting it to work with the s107 remote, but only having the straight control, do you mean you could have it go straight, but couldn't turn it left/right or go backwards, or it just shot off foreward without any controls applied? (just for some clairity)

The trouble with the 800g is that while a solid flyer, there's not really any parts out there yet, to my knowlege. I know there's none on amazon, (just checked a few seconds ago) but I don't know about other sites...

 

It could be a bad controller, if it works fine with the s107 remote, just acts as a 3ch, not a 4ch, or it could be a bad board if it doesn't work fine with the 107 remote. I would also check the servos--one might be stuck down or jammed. Heck, might have a bad wiring conection and it might be jammed in the on position. That would make it flop over or go foreward without explanation.

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With the S800G, the right servo moves up with throttle and dumps it over to the left. Left servo goes down and up for forward and reverse.

With S107C controller, throttle pulls right servo down, dumping it on it's right side.

The one time I got it in the air was with the S107G controller. I had virtually no control before I cut throttle. Now it won't bind with the helicopter.

Hard to tell what is messed up. I think it's the chopper.

No response yet from company I ordered from.

If no reply, I may sell it as a parts bird.Cry

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leadsled
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As a Christmas present to myself, I ordered an S800G and an S107C.

 

I outlined my troubles with the S800G.

 

On the maiden flight of the S107C I managed to splash it into the dogs' water bucket!!!!!!!!Cry

 

The heli seems fine but I think the camera is fried!!Confused

 

One positive is the controller is awesome compared to the one for the S107G.  They need to include this with the S107G!!!  It is crisp and sharp and brings my S107G to life.

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leadsled said
With the S800G, the right servo moves up with throttle and dumps it over to the left. Left servo goes down and up for forward and reverse.

With S107C controller, throttle pulls right servo down, dumping it on it's right side.

The one time I got it in the air was with the S107G controller. I had virtually no control before I cut throttle. Now it won't bind with the helicopter.

Hard to tell what is messed up. I think it's the chopper.

No response yet from company I ordered from.

If no reply, I may sell it as a parts bird.Cry

What company did you buy from? I have two 800G both fly well,hence just curios who the seller was.

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leadsled
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I bought it from http://www.symahelicopters.com/.

 

My S107G (under the Extreme S3.5G moniker) flies fine with the S800G controller.  Even this tiny controller is better than the original S107G controller, IMHO.

 

This leads me to believe something is wrong with the S800G itself.  seems like the starboard (right) servo is about 45 degrees off.  When I applied throttle while holding onto the bird,  the right servo pushes up.  Before the battery died, I gave it throttle at a 45 degree angle and it felt like it wanted to take off straight up.  I thinkl I may be able to adjust length of linkage by screwing or unscrewing and see what effect it has.  I'll try screwing it in, shortening, it and see what happens.  This is assuming the chopper is wired correctly.  The controller is fine.

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That sounds like a good idea to me. I would also look and see if it's in line with the other, or if the cog is a tooth off. You can unscrew it a bit, and move it over one tooth if need be. That should take out the problem.

 

Still learning the ropes on these things--sooo much different from the 107g, and haven't had much experience by others to give what problems are caused by what.

leadsled
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I ended up screwing the right servo linkage almost all the way down to get it to lift off and the left linkage about 1/2 way down to keep it from drifting back all the time.

Now I can hover, go forward, and turn left/right. I CANNOT strafe left, or go in reverse very fast. Right strafe is out of control.

Seems as if electronic gyro for vertical stability is 90 degrees out of kilter.

The company I purchased it from did get back to me.

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leadsled
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I am very pleased to report that the company did send me an RMA# for the defective S800G.  I am sure that the replacement will be just fine.  

 

On the positive side, I am now fairly familiar with fine tuning an S800G.

 

Can't wait to get the new one.

 

Now I need  to find a replacement camera for the S107C I ruined in a water crash on it's maiden flight.  Not sure if it's the camera or the connection on the helicopter side.Embarassed

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Good to hear they're going to replace it. Hope you can replace that camera! I guess next time you'll have to make sure to put away the dog's bowl. (or figure out some way to create a water-sealed case for the camera. lol)

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leadsled said
I am very pleased to report that the company did send me an RMA# for the defective S800G.  I am sure that the replacement will be just fine.  

 

On the positive side, I am now fairly familiar with fine tuning an S800G.

 

Can't wait to get the new one.

 

Now I need  to find a replacement camera for the S107C I ruined in a water crash on it's maiden flight.  Not sure if it's the camera or the connection on the helicopter side.Embarassed

That is also good to hear you got response back from them and getting replacement--have not bought from them my self so can not really comment how good they are-keep us posted SFSmile

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My S800G will be delivered to the company and my new one hopefully on it's way tomorrow also.

 

Also a new camera is on it's way from here.  http://www.symahelicopter.us/SYMA-Spare-Parts/SYMA-S107C(Camera)-Spare-Parts/SYMA-S107C-04-Camera-box

 

WOW.  Price went up in a few days.  I paid $10.98.  Hope this is the problem.  The new card I put in was fried in the watery crash.  Other cards I tried didn't work in the camera but the heli flies great.  So I'm assuming the board is ok.  I'll find out soon.

 

Even  if the camera doesn't work, I'll still have a great helicopter and the wonderful transmitter.  

 

I recommend everyone that has an S107G order a 107C for the transmitter alone.  It will make flying alot more fun. 

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I hope that's not just the case for it... looks to me like just the plastic case. Hope it all works out for ya!

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Just received my replacement S800G.  This one worked properly right out of the box.

 

http://www.symahelicopters.com.....efault.asp

 

I will do more business with them.  

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A lot of members wanted a sub forum for the Syma S800G here it is.Review for the Syma S800G http://syma107.com/syma-s800g-review/

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zedorda
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At first I didn't like the mode of the remote for the S800G. Since it is changeable I gave it a try and bought one off Symatoystore.com which took too long to get to me so I looked on Amazon and found it for $21.44 plus I had some gift card credit left. I have not looked back since. Now to mod the remote & battery.

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Nice! This little guy's comming into its own, I think. Not the best for people with bigger, badder helis, since it's controler's not the right mode, but for an intermediate, step up from the s107, it's great. I have two, and absolutely love flying them whenever I can. I give them an A+, just like the s107. And for the same if not slightly lower price point as the 107, (about $20 US on amazon) I'd start recomending getting 800g's after your comfortable with the 107 if you don't have anything bigger and probably will not have anything bigger.

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Soon after I bought my first Syma helicopter a S107G I searched for battery upgrade options. I found an American supplier called CheapBatteryPacks.com that had a couple batteries that might work but one line "Hyperion CX Series" even include s107 as a compatible model. So I went ahead and took the risk and ordered 2 of them at $6.95 each plus shipping. By this time I had ordered my S800G and luckily received everything about 3 days from each other. I was happy to learn that Hyperion includes a loose female plug with the battery and it's male end. Making it real easy to just cut the old battery out and soldering on the female plug. The fit is perfect IMHO. I first tried reusing the two sided foam tape that was on the old battery but there just wasn't enough room with the canopy. So I tried it without it and it fit and doesn't rattle at all with the angular original canopy but the S107G look-a-like canopy doesn't have enough room for this battery. This does add 3 grams to the front of the S800G I took the front weight out of my S107G and used the tail rotor screw to attach it(as seen in pic below). This doesn't completely balance it out but enough to fly without so much constant forward movement but it is still there.

 

Flight Effects:

First thing I noticed was a major increase to response of throttle. If you thought it was hard not to smack the ceiling before this makes it harder but for those moments you need that extra lift you have it. It does add alot of flight time but I have not timed it yet because the motors do get hot and I have been letting it cool after 10mins or so then finishing off the flight after about 2-3mins of cool down time. I don't know the safe temp range of these motors or I would do a constant flight and time it. It also seems like the gyro acts alittle squirrelly on high bank turns. This might be normal because I couldn't do high bank turns before. The added power from this battery has made this heli alot more fun IMO if your looking to challenge yourself.

 

Other Notes: The plug is compatible with most if not all 3.7v Eflight batteries and many others. Charge time is about 1hr 20mins for the light to be fully lit on the USB. This battery fits in the S107G but VERY tight. I had to nearly stretch the canopy to get the screw holes to match up. If you remove the nose weight from the S107G it makes it almost unnoticeable with little to none forward drift.

 

 

 

 

 

And just because here is a pic of the beginnings of my fleet with their ssig_cool2 fan in the background .

 

 

I plan to buy a charger I found on Amazon that seems compatible.


http://www.amazon.com/Thunder-.....NB4271QS9A

 

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Interesting on the weight factor- the motors you mentioned getting hot on a 10 minute fly time,that worries me a little-but hey you seem to be flying ok with the mod.Keep us posted after a few flights how the motors are taking the heat factor. ssig_goodjob2

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I never really checked to feel how hot the motors got in the stock setup. My second S800G arrived so I flew it a full 6-8mins and it was the same as the modified one. I think I was just being overly cautious so I flew the modified S107G and the S800G about 19mins each and the motors didn't get any hotter than with the stock S800G. I will keep posting what happens over the few weeks to see if there is any long term issues. 

 

P.S. I forgot to include the fact that I also flip the rear landing struts around and remove the front screws to slightly move the CoG back and lengthen the stance some. This can also be seen in the pics above.

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