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Syma Freak
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December 12, 2014 - 4:24 pm
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Hi All,

I am getting really excited with Syma and their breaking into quads and realistic prices. We have already done a few reviews on them as such:

Syma X5c

Syma X3 by Supernova

Syma X6 with more to come from JamDJ

Still more to review yet, like the Syma X3 Pioneer and a few others coming out next year. Happy to receive any posts on this, especially if you have a Syma quad give us your views and ask any help you might require.

Take care SF 2lbkos0

"Fly like a butterfly sting like a Syma" http://syma107.com

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December 16, 2014 - 10:06 am

Hey Guys!

I posted a pic in an RTF file.

Now the magic question!

Will someone with the NEW Syma X6 take a look at the board?

I need to know WHICH Red/Black motor Unit is Wired to WHICH points on the above mentioned picture.

Otherwise, I know sure as crap, I'll get them reversed!

I bought that board to upgrade my very *early* version of the Syma X6.

Now I do NOT want to screw it up!

BTW - I *do* know how to solder!  I do NOT use the RoHS Solder!  It is pure crap!

I am using a *very fine* 60/40 rosin core solder used by "Tellabs".  They build routers and multiplexers.  This is exactly what their engineers use.  (Yep! I got this roll there.  I got called in for an Interview and tour.  The Gentleman let me have a roll.  Such a deal I could NOT refuse!)

I also have Amateur Radio as a hobby.  I use a larger size of Kester 60/40 Rosin core for those items.

I would appreciate someone pop the cover of the newer Syma X6 and let me know which Red/Black motor Unit is Wired to WHICH points on the above mentioned picture.

Regards,

Bob, Robert, or Sarge

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December 17, 2014 - 7:31 pm
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As yet can not help you with wiring diagram. Advice I can give on soldering on boards is this reason. I have a DJI Phantom and put into the sea. After many attempts to solder new esc board went to see a friend. First point you need a good soldering iron hot, then as you heat old wires to remove from the board you need a solder sucker this one is brilliant from Hobbyking for $5.90 usa dont use lead solder, mistake I did was to pull old wires to hard without enough soldering iron heat and pulled off like the copper that solder goes on, we had to grind the board to find more copper, my friend is a dentist with perfect steady hands and did the job well, I learn't a lot.

"Fly like a butterfly sting like a Syma" http://syma107.com

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December 18, 2014 - 9:37 am

Yep!  I have about four solder suckers.  I have one specific one for PCBs that is blue.  The blue one is for ESD, (Electro-Static-Discharge), that you get walking across a carpet, sliding off the seats of vehicles, and other means.  I also use an ESD mat that is grounded to the center screw of an AC outlet cover.

This method *WILL* prevent zapping an IC or other items on a PCB.  Actually, the very fine 60/40 tin/lead solder does very well on the Syma X6 PCB.  I use an older Weller or Ungar temperature adjustable station.

I haven't taken the copper off a board in at least 30+ years.  The boards are pretty durable.  However, it does take care!  I have a whole bunch of dentist's bits that my dentist provided me.  They fit my Dremel adjustable speed tool.  I've used it to cot metal, ceramic, and lord only knows what all.

I also have pieces of blank PCB that I've used for other projects.  I even designed a piece for 1/10 R/C Electric cars to protect from getting rear ended and bending the rear axle.  My son and I raced for two years.  We used to give them holy grief.  One race my son finished with only three wheels!

Regards, Bob, Robert, or Sarge

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December 18, 2014 - 5:10 pm
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Rbethman, sorry it took so long to reply, but I have some

good news here....I have an X6 brand new that hopefully

I can take some pics of and send you that would help.

Just let me know what you need. Bad news is I work in retail

and 2 weeks before Christmas allows me no play-time at all

to get this done, plus the weather here in the northeast USA

is lousy. Been cold, windy, and mostly cloudy which makes flying impossible,

even on my days off. I'm going to do an in-depth review on here,

once all of this clears up. Meanwhile, let me know what you need pics of

and hopefully I can help.

  One last thing...does the nic "Sarge" mean you served in your military?

If so, I would address you as such!

  Good luck with your X6 and hopefully we can get them airborn soon!

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December 19, 2014 - 10:58 am

Definitely served in Military!  20 years and some months change.

Retired in '88.  Now 64, and sometimes feel more like 75!  Depends on whether I manage to get the dang arthritis stirred up.  The entire spine from base of neck all the way down through the lumbar.

Pain is good!  It means you are alive!

I understand working retail!  This time of the year is unreal.

I'm just lacking the wiring for the Red/Black on this replacement PCB.

I'll wait until you can get the Syma X6 Supership open.

It won't fly right if they get reversed.

Regards, Bob, Robert, or Sargessig_cool2

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rbethman said
Definitely served in Military!  20 years and some months change.

Retired in '88.  Now 64, and sometimes feel more like 75!  Depends on whether I manage to get the dang arthritis stirred up.  The entire spine from base of neck all the way down through the lumbar.

Pain is good!  It means you are alive!

I understand working retail!  This time of the year is unreal.

I'm just lacking the wiring for the Red/Black on this replacement PCB.

I'll wait until you can get the Syma X6 Supership open.

It won't fly right if they get reversed.

Regards, Bob, Robert, or Sargessig_cool2

There are a few of us here over 60 including me that love this hobby, you sound like a guy that has had a great life, not over yet--as for arthritis I found having some vegetable juice every day like celery and carrots fixed a lot of aches and pains, my biggest problem I like drinking whiskey, then the body aches come back -lol --hang in buddy just enjoy every moment of life yoda22

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rbethman said
Definitely served in Military!  20 years and some months change.

Retired in '88.  Now 64, and sometimes feel more like 75!  Depends on whether I manage to get the dang arthritis stirred up.  The entire spine from base of neck all the way down through the lumbar.

Pain is good!  It means you are alive!

I understand working retail!  This time of the year is unreal.

I'm just lacking the wiring for the Red/Black on this replacement PCB.

I'll wait until you can get the Syma X6 Supership open.

It won't fly right if they get reversed.

Regards, Bob, Robert, or Sargessig_cool2

Sarge,

I was in the Marine Corps from '56 to '60 (not a "lifer").  When I was mid 60s a pain in the neck was diagnosed as cervical stenosis.  Not too bad at first but eventually affected sleeping.  Given the choice of (potentially risky) surgery or mild narcotics to enable sleeping I chose narcotics (Percocet).  About age 75 a pain in the butt which I mistook as sciatica became progressively worse.  I'm now 78 and the diagnosis is arthritically corrupted hip joint.  I'm scheduled for a hip replacement on March 2. 

Pain from this thing got so bad that for the past few months I lost interest in the little helicopters.  I gave away two that I used to fly outside because I'm no longer capable of chasing them around.  But I kept the S107 and the Chinook which I enjoyed flying around the house and will get back to doing as soon as this hip problem is resolved.  

I haven't been paying attention to the hobby for the past few months and I just noticed the S107 is being phased out.  Is it replaced by something which is just as good in terms of stable indoor flying?  I've also noticed a lot of little indoor quads are being introduced and I will be getting one as soon as I'm up and around.  So any recommendations will be appreciated.

Mike K

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February 8, 2015 - 4:07 pm
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Mike,

  Where did you get the information that the 107 was being phased out?

On the Syma website, it still shows the 107G, in fact, brought back in the 3 original

colors and paint-schemes. PERHAPS, the "g" suffex has been replaced by the newer

version wherein the "g" for "gyro" is now standartd in their products, and the

suffex letters are now features, like a camera, or bubble-launcher.

  From a business standpoint of Syma, The 107 is a cash-cow for them.

Not only do they make it for themselves, but co-brand for other retailors as well

under different brand names. OOPS, just lost one as Radio Shack went under last week!

I personally have a Toys-R-Us co-brand and a Fire-something that are 107s and work

off the same remote. Even though Syma is exploring more avenues, I somehow doubt

they will drop their prized S107. 

  Please let us know where you gout this information from so we can look into it!

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February 14, 2015 - 6:19 am

I have now got and flown my x5c and love it so far, I need to try it outside next but am worried that it is so light it will blow away.

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MikeK
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JamDJ said
Mike,

  Where did you get the information that the 107 was being phased out?

On the Syma website, it still shows the 107G, in fact, brought back in the 3 original

colors and paint-schemes. PERHAPS, the "g" suffex has been replaced by the newer

version wherein the "g" for "gyro" is now standartd in their products, and the

suffex letters are now features, like a camera, or bubble-launcher.

  From a business standpoint of Syma, The 107 is a cash-cow for them.

Not only do they make it for themselves, but co-brand for other retailors as well

under different brand names. OOPS, just lost one as Radio Shack went under last week!

I personally have a Toys-R-Us co-brand and a Fire-something that are 107s and work

off the same remote. Even though Syma is exploring more avenues, I somehow doubt

they will drop their prized S107. 

  Please let us know where you gout this information from so we can look into it!

If it wasn't on this forum it must have been some Amazon product review.  I can't remember which.  I do recall it having to do with a new Syma bird (I forget the model number) which is virtually identical to the S-107 but is radio-controlled rather than IR.  

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Redfive said
I have now got and flown my x5c and love it so far, I need to try it outside next but am worried that it is so light it will blow away.

Bryan,

I hope it doesn't blow away -- because I ordered one yesterday from Amazon and received an email this morning advising that it's been shipped.  

So we'll soon know.

 

Mike

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April 19, 2015 - 3:36 am

Experience since that post has proved that the x5c is able to cope well with wind. I'm glad you are getting one as I love mine.

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Redfive said
Experience since that post has proved that the x5c is able to cope well with wind. I'm glad you are getting one as I love mine.

Everything I've read so far suggests I will like it.  

As mentioned above, I received an email confirming shipment -- from China!  Anticipated delivery between May 17 and June 1.  That means by the time it arrives I will have forgotten I ordered it, so it will be a nice surprise.  

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April 19, 2015 - 5:51 am

I got mine from china too, it was packaged in a different box and I had to put the blades on. I used a smaller quad as a guide to get the blades in the right places.  

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Redfive said
I got mine from china too, it was packaged in a different box and I had to put the blades on. I used a smaller quad as a guide to get the blades in the right places.  

Bryan,

I ordered mine from Amazon but the order will be fulfilled by a Chinese company called Coromose.  The estimated shipping time is May 17 to June 1 but shipping is (almost) free.  I paid $48.50 for the quad, plus $1 shipping.  Total, $49.50.  

I hope there are no surprises when it arrives, such as assembly required.  I consider that acceptable only when specified in advance.  This is one reason why I like to buy from Amazon.  If anything is wrong Amazon is very responsive to complaints -- especially if one is a long-term customer with a history of satisfactory purchases.  

Mike--

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Redfive
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April 22, 2015 - 3:08 am

Mine was an ebay purchase they did say it would be repackaged to save on postage.

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Redfive
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April 26, 2015 - 7:05 am

I have just acquired a x5 as well. The good news is that it is in original packaging and the only parts to attach are the optional blade guards.

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Bryan,

I made a mistake.  My x5 Amazon purchase was not filled by a Chinese but rather a Netherlands vendor.  I ordered it on April 18 and it arrived today, May 4.  17 days.  Not bad.  

It truly is a beautifully made little drone.  I had to install the blade guards but that's all.  So far I've managed to get it set up and working, but because I've had no experience with any 4-channel machine I keep bouncing it off the walls -- and my Yorkie is going nuts watching it through the retainer gate.  (If I let him out he will destroy it.)  Fortunately the warm weather is here and I live adjacent to a large open field, so I'll take it out there to get used to the controls.  

Bottom line is I'm perfectly satisfied with it and I'm glad I ordered it.  So thanks for your recommendation.  

I now have a Syma S-107, an S-26 (Chinook), and this quad.  It appears I'm slowly developing an addiction and if this bird performs as nicely as I believe it will I might end up buying myself a really expensive toy for Christmas.  

 

Mike--

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Questions re: Syma X5C:

When charging the S-107 and the S-26 batteries the light goes ON in the charger base when the battery is fully charged.  

When I plugged the charger with the S5C battery attached into the computer the light in the charger base is already ON.  Does this mean the battery is already fully charged?  Or is the light supposed to go out when the battery is fully charged?   

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