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RobertNH
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July 5, 2016 - 6:58 am

Had to go out again. Ya, addictive... Winds went down, good time to fly.

New high score for me! 15 passes and one really good crash.. hooked the hoop!

Total now 14!! Whoa!

600mah battery getting about 6 minutes plus fly time. No camera, no legs attached.

If this gets easy, which I doubt, I'll go 'Head-less' and see if I can learn that mode. So far it's been tough going 'Head-less'.. Really switches up the controls.

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July 4, 2016 - 10:08 pm

Okay so Copter Croquet was way too tough. The hoop was too close to the ground and I'm just not that good yet.

So I setup a 3ft diameter hoop on a 3ft pole and made the game Hoop Copter.

Even in a light wind (which is typical) this is very challenging for me, yet very good practice in control!

Rules are very simple;

You get the length of the battery to complete your run.

Each pass through is worth a point

You must change direction for your next pass through and must go at least 10ft away before the next pass.

Any non-recoverable crash deducts a point. Put it back in flight without touching the copter, point saved.

 

Give it a go and let me know how well you did. Should be easy to beat me, I'm still working on control. I'm at 12 passes with 3 crashes, 9 total points...

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Great post.I have a order in with Banggood for the Syma x5sw and will do a review on her.Thank you for your information

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June 27, 2016 - 6:44 am

MikeK said
I'm glad to see Syma has taken a step forward with its x5sw.  I just discovered it today.  The addition of FPV to the basic x5c is keeping pace with advancing drone technology.

A few weeks ago I got a JXD509g, also known as the Pioneer UFO.  It is physically identical to the Yuneec Q500, except about five times smaller.  It has its own FPV monitor, which is surprisingly clear and efficient, but the thing that moved me is its barometric altitude hold, which maintains its height so you need only be concerned with controlling direction.  It also has headless mode and one button RTH (return to home).  It's responsive and a pleasure to fly.  

The only negative is the 600ma battery it comes with affords only 3 - 4 minutes flight time.  I had to buy a couple of 850ma batteries, which boost it to about 9 - 10 minutes.  This limited flight time is owing to wi-fi transmission for the FPV function.  But things are moving forward and it won't be long before we'll be seeing some sophisticated birds in the affordable price range.  

How is it in the wind? Similar to the X5?

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June 20, 2016 - 5:54 am

Great of flying today. Well it's Fathers Day and they can't stop me!!!

 

All kidding as side.

It has been fun learning how to fly, then finding out the flip is so easy. I have good control on the 'bird' now and setting up challenges, besides working with the wind... LOL!

Headless flying is still a challenge for me. Need some more time to Master it. Just seems backwards, could be setting up wrong. Like I say, a little more time to determine if it's for me.

I still can not dedicate to FPV.. I bought this model purposely because of this. In a open field (which I've yet to do) I may learn to rely on it. In my yard, with so many obstacles, not so much.. Coming closer to understanding camera view, and have to 'slow down' a bit when doing so, yet way too much fun to run the yard full bore!!! And now do a 'flip'...

My yard is turning into a croquet course.. Extra points for a 'flip' (now that I can) between hoops!

Hmm.. A new Challenge Game? Quad Croquet anyone?

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I agree with your post, and feel the prices will come down for the sophisticated Quads, however technology is racing away keeping the prices high. I noticed voice control quads now, less than 10 years the concept of drones will be like having a bicycle in your garage,everyone has one

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Syma Freak said
Thank you for your post.Things are hotting up with the Syma X8HG with fpv and HD Camera, at around $160 is not cheap.I am trying to get one to review. Link here for more information  

Thanks for the link!

This X8HG looks good -- especially the camera.  Syma's ad should emphasize the FPV capability.  That's what attracted me to the JXD509g -- along with the $90 price.  But the JXD509g lacks Syma's sexy camera.    

But the altitude-hold, headless mode, RTH and FPV features in these budget-priced quads is competitive with the higher-priced originators.  I expect we soon will be seeing GPS and object-avoidance in affordable price versions.  

What occurs to me in thinking about the difference between the lower price quads and the more professional versions, such as the Phantoms and Yuneecs, etc., is the relative simplicity involved in using such low-cost birds as the Syma X8HG and the JXD509g.  While the high-end drones have a lot more going for them in the way of performance and capabilities they also involve a lot more attention in the way of software tinkering, such as the constant firmware updates which can be extremely troublesome for those of us (like me) who simply don't care to be bothered with that stuff.  And this single factor has played a major role in discouraging me from buying a Phantom or a Yuneec.

All that's required to fly the X8 or the 509g is charge the battery.  They essentially ready-to-fly right out of the box and there is virtually no maintenance, which, in the long run, is an important consideration.  No, they are not as feature-rich as the high-end drones, but unless one is deeply into photography or enjoys the software tinkering and necessary maintenance the low-end versions are becoming more competitive every day in terms of sophisticated features.

I'm predicting that within the next year or two the low and high ends will meet somewhere in the middle and there will be some very sophisticated hobby drones available in the $200 - $300 price range -- and they will be much easier to use.   

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Thank you for your post.Things are hotting up with the Syma X8HG with fpv and HD Camera, at around $160 is not cheap.I am trying to get one to review. Link here for more information

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I'm glad to see Syma has taken a step forward with its x5sw.  I just discovered it today.  The addition of FPV to the basic x5c is keeping pace with advancing drone technology.

A few weeks ago I got a JXD509g, also known as the Pioneer UFO.  It is physically identical to the Yuneec Q500, except about five times smaller.  It has its own FPV monitor, which is surprisingly clear and efficient, but the thing that moved me is its barometric altitude hold, which maintains its height so you need only be concerned with controlling direction.  It also has headless mode and one button RTH (return to home).  It's responsive and a pleasure to fly.  

The only negative is the 600ma battery it comes with affords only 3 - 4 minutes flight time.  I had to buy a couple of 850ma batteries, which boost it to about 9 - 10 minutes.  This limited flight time is owing to wi-fi transmission for the FPV function.  But things are moving forward and it won't be long before we'll be seeing some sophisticated birds in the affordable price range.

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Good info.I removed my guards as well because I have got heaps better flying and did not need that protection.Any weight taken off the X5C creates faster flying, not good for beginner. Thanks again for your input, helps a lot.ssig_goodjob2

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April 3, 2016 - 5:12 am

The X5C folks have taken over (LOL), but their some of us that have SW's!

My only fault is the camera so far.. Well that and 'low' wind flying, but I figure the 'C' folks are the same.

I just upgraded to the 2MP WIFI camera. Yes better picture, yet still choppy.. Lighting is still an issue and fixed focal length (still no adjustment, well that I can find).

I know, entry level and what did I really expect.. Adjustable focal length would have been good..

For me, I found removing the blade guards from the back end helped with forward motion. I had found turning around (running in reverse) in the wind was stronger. So I remove the guards from the back side and it's better. Also helps with visually seeing front side (also changed to the white guards. My unit had black, as is my SW).

I've also upgraded to the 600mah batteries. No so sure flight time is really that much better, but nice to have a couple of charged batteries around to continue the fun! Besides being able to charge more than one at a time.

Would love to hear from other SW owners and what your doing and learning!

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