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The Cheerson X10-A:
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MikeK
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I've just ordered a Cheerson X10-A.  

Having watched a few video reviews it looks like it might be helpful to me in acquiring the second-nature skill required to control 4-channel birds. I have the Syma x5c, which I really like, but development of the necessary reflexes is coming along very slowly.  The X10-A has a headless function which I believe will be helpful.

All of the YouTube reviews I've watched are favorable.  But I'd be interested in reading any comments or tips from others in this forum.

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I've not seem that model yet

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Redfive said
I've not seem that model yet

It's nice.  Four different colors: black, white, silver, gold.  And it has a headless mode, which is what captured me.  Overall, based on the video reviews I've watched (YouTube) it looks like a lot of fun for twenty bucks.  

The anticipated shipping date is between June 22 and July 16, so it will be awhile before I can comment on it.  

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I looked it up and agree it does look good, I have accidently ordered one from the uk warehouse so hoping to get it next week

Bryan

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Redfive said
I looked it up and agree it does look good, I have accidently ordered one from the uk warehouse so hoping to get it next week

Bryan,

I discovered too late that I could have ordered mine from Banggood (in U.S) for the same price as my China order.  So you'll be getting yours soon enough to be give me some advance tips.  

Based on what I've seen I'm sure you will like the X10-A.  I would especially like to read your comments on the headless mode.

Mike--

 

PS:  What do you mean you "accidentally" ordered yours?   

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I was looking it up and read about the headless mode and it was only £13 so I couldn't resist the buy it button. I will be interested in the headless system as keeping orientation is the hardest bit about quad flying. 

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Just got it today it flew instantly for 30 seconds before the battery ran out (straight out of box) One propeller came off in a landing but slid on again so you may need to put a small drop of glue on the shaft if it does that regularly. Mine is now on charge so will let you know more once I have flown it properly. The charge lead looks like a syma one but it lights up to say it is charging.  

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Redfive said
Just got it today it flew instantly for 30 seconds before the battery ran out (straight out of box) One propeller came off in a landing but slid on again so you may need to put a small drop of glue on the shaft if it does that regularly. Mine is now on charge so will let you know more once I have flown it properly. The charge lead looks like a syma one but it lights up to say it is charging.  

Bryan,

One of the video reviewers on YouTube said it is not unusual for a prop to come off if the X10 crashes in a certain way.  But it's nothing to worry about because they're made to fit right on again and these little birds can take a beating.  Also, more than one review said you get some replacement props with a new X10 in case you lose them.  Did you get any?  

I've already ordered a set of parts which includes a protective cage (because I know I will need it), a bunch of props, two batteries and four motors.  I know I'm jumping the gun but waiting for parts when I'm eager to fix something (like my x5c) is very annoying.  Plus at my age I don't like wasting time because I don't have too much left.  

I changed the motor on my dead x5c.  It's working fine and I'm starting to turn the corner on control.  Last night I was able to keep it hovering in a 6' x 6' x 6' indoor area throughout a full battery charge without one crash.  I was never able to do that before.  Based on what I've seen on YouTube the X10-A is even easier to control -- and the headless feature should compensate for my slowing reflexes.

We'll see.

Mike--

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I have discovered that the cheerson is a bit harder to hover as the throttle is very sensitive. it also has a habit of landing upside down. I will try to get a better time with it after work today. full set of spare rotors supplied

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I have discovered that the cheerson is a bit harder to hover as the throttle is very sensitive. it also has a habit of landing upside down. I will try to get a better time with it after work today. full set of spare rotors supplied

Disappointing news.  

I can't comment yet but I'm somewhat apprehensive anticipating the arrival of mine.  I had placed a lot of faith in what the YouTube reviewers had to say -- especially about stability.   

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I'm struggling to enjoy it. throttle control is over sensitive and the rotor falling off every landing is annoying. I will try it outside and see if it behaves in a larger area. 

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I'm struggling to enjoy it. throttle control is over sensitive and the rotor falling off every landing is annoying. I will try it outside and see if it behaves in a larger area. 

Bryan,

That doesn't sound good at all.  You said it came with some replacement rotors, so have you tried a replacement?  I have ordered a bunch of replacements.  As I recall, more than I think I'll ever need.  So when they get here I will mail you a couple if you need them.  

Based on what you've said, so far it looks like either the YouTube review videos are deliberately misleading (shills) or you've gotten a defective bird.  Mine should be getting here soon, so we'll know for sure then.  As it is I'm really sorry you're having problems and seem very disappointed.  And if you're having a problem I will have a disaster.

Mike

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Bryan,

The X10 arrived yesterday, happily a week sooner than expected, and it is a cute little bugger.  It's amazing that such a little machine is capable of rc flight, but you are quite correct about the extreme sensitivity.  I would be complaining about that if this little bird cost $50 or more, but for $20 I'll say its hyper-sensitivity will serve to sharpen my reflexes with the bigger birds.  

As it is I've been bouncing it off the walls and ceiling quite a bit, but I've reached the stage where I can keep it moving in a small area for two or three minutes.  And one thing I do like about it is five minutes of flight on a five minute charge.

So how are you doing with it?  Did you overcome the prop falling off?  I'm hoping you haven't put it aside out of disgust.

Mike

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Hi Mike, life is getting in the way of my playtime. Not tried changing the prop yet

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Hi Mike, life is getting in the way of my playtime. Not tried changing the prop yet

Bryan,

No problem.  Write when you have time and the mood.

First, I made a mistake in saying I get five minutes flight from a five minute charge.  It's more like five minutes flight from a one hour charge.

As far as flying, as I've already said you're quite right about throttle sensitivity along with some other control peculiarities.  For one thing the headless mode sometimes quits and it's all over the place.  But that's an occasional occurrence which is easy enough to correct (start over) and it might just be a defect in my bird and not all of them.  

The best thing I can say about this little machine is it's good exercise for the reflexes, because contending with its sensitivity has improved my ability with the x5c, which I've finally gotten on top of.  

Mike

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After playing around with the Cheerson X10 for several days (indoors) I must agree that the throttle is very sensitive compared with those of most larger birds.  But this quadcopter is very tiny and the controller is equally miniaturized, so it's a totally different experience from the Syma x5c, which is extremely stable.

The Cheerson x10 does take some getting used to, but it is controllable.  It takes concentration, the ultimate effect of which is enhancement of your reflexes.  After flying the x10 for awhile the x5c seems much easier to handle (for a novice like me).  

There is a protective cage available (via Amazon) for the x10.  I got one and although I don't crash the bird as much anymore I've found that the added weight and aerodynamic effect of the cage has substantially stabilized the little quad.  I can actually hover it in a very small space now.  

In keeping with the rapid progress of this r/c helicopter technology I've just learned that Syma has introduced a mini-copter.  I've forgotten the name and number but I saw it on YouTube and it looks pretty good.  

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Mike,

  Regarding your last paragraph, I believe you might

be refering to the Syma S6-Mini. I will TRY to put a 

pic of mine on here as an attachment. And, yes, its'

pretty good! Been out for almost a year now, and available

in the typical Syma colors, yellow and blue. There is also a red

model available but hard to find. The red one very closely  models

the Hughs heli from the TV show MacGyver!

  Like your X10, this is really sensitive due to it's small size, but once

you get some pilot seat-time in, not so bad. Just watch out for

air ducts and drafty spots in your flying area. The remote looks like something

from a PS3, and for long fingers, may take some getting used to, but

SURPRISE!, your 107 remote will fly it!

  If I can't get my pic downloaded to this entry, the size is about 1/2 of

our 107s so you can imagine how tiny they are. SF and I communicated at

the beginning of this year that we should both be able to do this blindfolded,

but struggle with it. Usually CPD and Supernova are our go-to guys for on-line

videos, pics, etc. CPD has since graduated from his university here in

Pennsylvania

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(OK, I tried too hard! ......)  and Supernova now has his own itineraries to follow.

We wish them both the best of luck! ssig_goodjob2 I hope this helps you!smileys-confused-731584

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Mike,

  Regarding your last paragraph, I believe you might

be refering to the Syma S6-Mini. I will TRY to put a 

pic of mine on here as an attachment. And, yes, its'

pretty good! Been out for almost a year now, and available

in the typical Syma colors, yellow and blue. There is also a red

model available but hard to find. The red one very closely  models

the Hughs heli from the TV show MacGyver!

  Like your X10, this is really sensitive due to it's small size, but once

you get some pilot seat-time in, not so bad. Just watch out for

air ducts and drafty spots in your flying area. The remote looks like something

from a PS3, and for long fingers, may take some getting used to, but

SURPRISE!, your 107 remote will fly it!

  If I can't get my pic downloaded to this entry, the size is about 1/2 of

our 107s so you can imagine how tiny they are. SF and I communicated at

the beginning of this year that we should both be able to do this blindfolded,

but struggle with it. Usually CPD and Supernova are our go-to guys for on-line

videos, pics, etc. CPD has since graduated from his university here in

Pennsylvania

photo-3.JPGImage Enlargerphoto-3.JPGImage Enlarger 

(OK, I tried too hard! ......)  and Supernova now has his own itineraries to follow.

We wish them both the best of luck! ssig_goodjob2 I hope this helps you!smileys-confused-731584

JamDJ,

Many thanks for your effort in sending those pictures.  Actually the new Syma copter I'm talking about is a mini-quad which is competitive with the Cheerson X10-A.  

But as a devoted fan of the Syma S-107 I've had an interest in the S-6 since it was introduced, mainly because it's said to be as easy to fly as the 107.  Right now I'm hooked on quads and I've just become competent with the venerable Syma x5c.  

I've had a couple of 'copters I was unable to control and ended up giving them away to my granddaughter's boyfriend.  They were much too frisky and crash-prone and I'm simply too old to be chasing them around.  

The way this technology is advancing I'm sure we'll soon be seeing some amazing new developments.  

Mike

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Mike,

  I just got hooked on the quads. I have the X6 Supership that I am working on right

now for the "official" review on this forum. I've had it for a few months now, and am

finally getting to fly it. Getting used to 4-channel was an obstacle since I am left-handed.

My review should be posted on the home page shortly.

  As I have been bitten by the "quad bug" I'd like to make the X5C my next purchase.

Seems to be the popular one on here right now and would love to have one with

a built-in camera in my collection. 

  Please, however, let us not ever forget our love for the 107 and welcome new

pilots getting in to this hobby!

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I have an s6, cutest little heli ever. I'm not convinced the left handedness is a barrier as I'm a lefty too. It is just getting used to the different positions of the controls. Owning an x5c is ideal for mastering a quad but I will get the cheerson to behave. The 107 still rules in the heli world.

Bryan

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