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MikeK
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So far I've read about "drones" being used to carry drugs across the Mexican border, which is criminal.  

I've also read about a young fellow who has attached a .45 automatic pistol to a quad -- which he can fire with reasonable accuracy from approximately ten yards.  Having successfully done this is, in itself, not criminal.  But the potential is glaringly obvious.  

Today CNN news ran an item about a "drone" being used to deliver contraband (drugs and a loaded handgun) over the wall and into the yard of a prison.  They showed a close-up still picture of one of these prison-delivery quads which was captured.  I'm unable to identify it but it looks  like a Walkera Voyager.

If a quad can carry a loaded .45 automatic, which weighs a couple of pounds, it can also carry a couple of pounds of C-4. which is an extremely powerful explosive.  So if this potential occurs to me there is no doubt it has occurred to officials at Homeland Security, FBI, ATF and other similarly concerned federal agencies.  So I expect we'll soon be seeing legislated regulations on the ownership and use of quads which are capable of carrying something heavier than the camera on the x5c.  

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Well MikeK I learn't today Amazon is looking at drones to deliver products, in the past world as I am a old dude, landing on the moon was in comic books, now anything is possible. Thank you for your posts.

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SF, thats been in the news over here for a bit of time now, I saw a similar report and the drone was carrying a 

Cannon DSLR camera as well as a small freight package. Powerful stuff, no doubt.

  The problem that I see forthcoming is that we, as hobbiests, may not be allowed to fly freely.

Best example, I live within 10 miles of Harrisburg International Airport and the rumor is that I

won't be able to fly a drone above 500 ft. even in my backyard. OK, so can my S6 go 500 ft?

Just look at the videos and mods on here! Obviously safety is the main concern.

   What needs to happen is that there needs to be a distinction between hobby-grade and

service drones. The problem is that hobby-grade can be upgraded.

I welcome anyones thoughts whom read this!

   Happy and safe flying to all! 

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MikeK
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JamDJ said
SF, thats been in the news over here for a bit of time now, I saw a similar report and the drone was carrying a 

Cannon DSLR camera as well as a small freight package. Powerful stuff, no doubt.

  The problem that I see forthcoming is that we, as hobbiests, may not be allowed to fly freely.

Best example, I live within 10 miles of Harrisburg International Airport and the rumor is that I

won't be able to fly a drone above 500 ft. even in my backyard. OK, so can my S6 go 500 ft?

Just look at the videos and mods on here! Obviously safety is the main concern.

   What needs to happen is that there needs to be a distinction between hobby-grade and

service drones. The problem is that hobby-grade can be upgraded.

I welcome anyones thoughts whom read this!

   Happy and safe flying to all! 

When the FAA and Homeland Security present their complaints and dire predictions of terrorist activities and passenger aircraft accidents to the Congress we can rest assured there will be ambitious legislation calling for restrictions on flight ceilings and any categorical drone which is capable of carrying more than (x) ounces.  I'm sure there will be a licensing requirement for such activities as Amazon's projected drone delivery service.  

Right now I am doing my best to develop reflexive control of my x5c's full capabilities.  When I reach that stage I know I will start thinking about putting myself in debt and stepping up to a big quad with FPV, GPS, 30-minute flight time and auto-home.   But it's my luck that if I ever decide to take that step a law will be passed to prevent it.  Or, worse, if I do get one of the big ones the law will ground me.  

So I'm hoping the r/c industry will spend enough money lobbying Congress to prevent excessive restrictions.  

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Syma Freak said
Well MikeK I learn't today Amazon is looking at drones to deliver products, in the past world as I am a old dude, landing on the moon was in comic books, now anything is possible. Thank you for your posts.

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SF,

That Amazon plan is really something.  Imagine placing an order, waiting thirty minutes, walking outside, looking up -- and here it comes!  As bizarre as that seems it's entirely possible.  

I wonder what the delivery charge would be.  But if it's something you really need in a hurry it might be worth it.  

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September 18, 2015 - 2:27 am

How big would an amazon drone be to cover a few miles with a payload and how would it be controlled? I can't see it happening soon.

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Interesting site on drones delivery Medicine,books, etc

http://www.wired.com/2015/02/d.....gulations/

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Syma Freak said
Interesting site on drones delivery Medicine,books, etc

http://www.wired.com/2015/02/d.....gulations/

S/F,

Thanks!  Very interesting item.  This technology is exploding!  What we are seeing today is something I wouldn't have imagined when I got my S-107 about a year ago.  

Looking on the bright side the pizzas will be arriving by air in a year or less.  But there is a dark side to drones which are able to deliver a six pound payload and those which can carry and accurately shoot a .45 automatic.  I can't help fearing extreme federal restrictions (here in the U.S.) shortly after the first "terrorist" use of a drone.  

Mike--

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Well i feel the world now has more to worry about especially Europe of refugees not quads! Always sensible flyers will make this hobby ok- to many companies and employees in this market to mess it up-I might be wrong, sure rules need to be brought out, policing them will be hard.

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When you think about life, back in the late 70's I had a phone pager system, my first mobile phone for my business was like carrying a car battery, now we have small mobiles and aps etc, one has to be stupid to think as this world watches us all, as we watch people leaving bags in train stations and airports, think how a small quad flyer picks up something the powers to be can not see or be there.. bit of madness from me..

But can not see how the governments can control this massive hobby now, bit like firearms in the USA, as in Aussie no guns allowed, can not see in the next 20 years people in the USA will hand their guns in which I had to do back in the late 80's in Aussie..

So how can they control me from buying motors , frames etc to build a quad? They will need to stop the flow of parts from say China..ok

like guns hell of a lot of parts available anywhere to build a quad or gun, now we have 3d printing.. sorry on a roll..

No this hobby will be controlled by license fees, the local police will be like parking attendants to check on that, also I see a public insurance we will have to have, some years ago I had a dog walking business and had to to have public liability insurance at $3,000 a year in case a dog bit someone..so now have to make sure my quad has prop guards on it..if you understand where I am coming from...money for Governments will be earn't from this hobby-not stopped--guess got that off my chest -lol

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