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New Symas--a Coincedince or not quite?
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Don't know if anybody's checked the Syma Products page since last night, but they were doing major work on it around 10:00 Eastern Time. Now, they have a whole list of new products.

 

Some highlights are a larger version of the s111g dolphin USCG, except closer to the current version of the eurocopter, (and a misspelling- US Coast Geard) two larger versions of the s108g- except I can't tell the difference between them, s107C-a regular s107g except with new paintjob and a CAMERA. (and possably metal gears) Then, there is my favorite, the s119g UH-1C Huey (hog/frog) in the pre-67 colorfull Army scheme and post-nam USAF rescue "Air Succor" bright orange scheme. (except they have each listed as s119g and s116g, so maybe the army's the 119, and the usaf is 116, and the charge port and fueling ports are different, despite being identical otherwise as far as their bodies) Also, a new version of the s102 is out there- the s102S for shooting, as it has "rocket launchers" on the sides. Then, there is the s801g, which is a new version of the s031g or s032g, and is identical, except it is, get this, A FOUR CHANNEL SYMA! The same for the s800g, which is identical looking to the 107, except four channel and with new, sleek lines straight off of a DeLorean!

 

My question is, are they all coincedences that we just so happened to want or try to build all of these, or is it that they're watching this forum for answers? We've brought up how much we've wanted to possably have 4 channel helis like the s107, and we have them now. We've put cameras on them, and now they have ones with cameras. We've had many people fall in love with the s111g and s108g, and now they have a bigger version of each. I've tried (unsuccessfully) to build a huey, and now they have two. Everything except for the rocket launchers on the 102 has been brought up here many times, and they turned around and built them.

 

I understand it would take a very long time to design and test these new products, but these have come out almost too exactly to what we've said to not raise susspicions that we're being watched by Syma. It's a good thing, I guess if we are, since then we're gaining some clout as a forum. Hopefully, if we are being watched, that means we can end up with more products that we want.

 

So, what's next? S029F- the new USCG eurocopter with floats on it for water landings? Tell dale to do that one!

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Im getting me either that dauphin or that cobra (big ones) can they fly outdoors? And it is 2012, so maybe they where working on them sometime last year.and maybe they start with indoor helis, and whatever they find that is more popular rthey make bigger. Plus, everyone likes different models, so maybe they decided that the bell and Blackhawk are two most wanted helicopters so they made one. Every helicopter lover likes the original UH-1 model, a lot of people like the fenestron tail, tandem rotor, attack helicopters eft. A d because of that they created what they're selling. In order for them to be so successful they have to cater to other peoples needs.

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That is interesting,these helis you mentioned do not yet seem to be out there yet for sale.I seem to feel this forum is being viewed by Syma itself and they would be silly not to watch any site that has so much talk and mods.I always feel any upgrades on any heli takes a few months for feed back to see if they are better-Would not be surprised to see a carbon fibre Syma heli as well.What it means for us especially me is to monitor all this and for me to touch base with Syma-They are real slow to reply if ever,tight ship giving info away-All in all tho if they are viewing this forum maybe good for all of us.If I was them would be trying to upgrade helis as to what people want,

Good post CPD

"Fly like a butterfly sting like a Syma" http://syma107.com

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@old_iron_spine I looked at the dolphin, and it looks like it has the junk single connector buckel that I've seen some complaints about.

 

They can't really fly outdoors, but they can in very light wind. They get blown around a good bit, like the 107's, because of how light yet large they are.

 

I'm not quite sure what it all means, though. It could be good for us, but may be bad for syma, because they might get too specialized with higher-end toys and may not be able to have enough starter ones. A carbon Fibre syma probably won't happen, though, because of the cost. I've seen carbon fiber T-Rex helis, but that's $100 without anything like servos or the motor. (which, isn't bad with regular full ones being $100)

 

I also saw the s800g on some website for sale, but it was $80. I'm guessing they'll have them for sale in a few websites for that insane price they say they're supposed to be, then cut them back to the $30 regular price. (I'm guessing the 800'll be $40-$50 in the end, but the others won't be anywhere close.

 

I also noticed that the 116g is a mini version of the 119g.

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January 5, 2012 - 8:20 am
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I thought the dauphin had a fenestron tail, it doesn't look to good..

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it does, kinda, have the distinctive tail...

 

except the rotor's sideways...

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Yeah, I don't like their fenestron tail. It still a fenestron tail, just not thee fenestron tail

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Yeah, it's not quite right...

 

You probably could get the tail you wanted, but only if you pony up for the 301g, (they changed the number from 801 to 301, I think... they got rid of the 801 page and everything) then find the body for the USCG heli on ebay after they've been out for a while, and cut and paste them together.

 

That's something that only I'm crazy enough to try...

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Did you guys check out the syma s800? It can lean left/right. However, it doesn't say it can go forward.. You probably do that by barely lean and turning. But hey, new technology!

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That's the new 4 channel one. It should, if I know my channels correctly, be able to move sideways, not lean to them, but  SF should be able to clarify that.

 

Also, it can go foreward, reguardless of whatever it says right now- they don't have any idea what they're doing with english, reguardless if they know how to make a heli.

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Yeah I know. But their out of hong kong, maybe they use google translator, lol!

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It would be cool if they made Chinese model helicopters too. I tried to learn Chinese... Then I discovered it was too hard so I'm taking Japanese now, it's a lot easier. I still can't speak to a Chinese person, but it's close enough. There has to be some person in china who knows Japanese. Or Korean, Korean and japanese are the two closest Asian languages. Korean characters look cool, they're all round in shape. Japanese reminds me of anime drawings for some reason. But all languages are cool.

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Korean's actually an insanely hard language to learn in general terms. It's worse than putting a Southern Belle in with a Massecusets guy, Supernova, a Canadian, and SF in the same room, and try to understand them all if you're an 8 year old from Iowa.

 

They have sooooo many different dialects, each generation has their own dialect, and every single province practically speaks a different language.

 

To the north, they use a crapload more Chineese-ish words, to the south they use many more Japaneese-originating words, plus thousands of original words, plus many half-and-half words that are half-forgein, half original. (like the capital of N. Korea is named Pyong Yang, but it's correctly pronounced P'yong Ahn, and is a half breed of straight-up 70 year old, chineese that isn't used anymore, and korean that is out of date and not used anymore. It's supposed to mean Peace and Harmony, based off of the forms in Tang Soo Do)

 

Oh, and yaknow Hundai? It's really supposed to be pronounced (very soft H) "hYundee" or like you'd say "hYundIgh" the way sigh is pronounced)

 

Plus, to my knowlege, there is no way to count past 10. How they count 11 exactly, I don't know. I only know a little bit that was taught from caucasion masters to the master I study under, so it's been screwed up a lot, except for many sounds are correct.

 

 

Did I mention the fact that you NEVER bring up japan to koreans? EVER. (well, as long as you don't want to feel 500,000 years worth of pent-up rage...)

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Are you taking Korean? Are you Asian? I'm not, I just like Asia hahaha! Why don't you bring up Japan to a Korean? Even a south Korean? Japan helped south Korea when north was trying to take over.

I heard from a Canadian on Facebook that he hates it when people think that Canadian French and France French are the same. I just said, "can you blame us? You can still communicate with french people." and I think I made him mad. Anywho, Japanese has several dialects too, however, the most dominant one is the one they speak on Tokyo, and that's the one I'm learning. However, there are different dialects on the smaller islands and one other on the main island. Okinawa, I believe iwoshima, ect. Smaller place.

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I'm not korean, I'm just a 3rd Dan (black belt) in Tang Soo Do.

 

But, ever since Japan was created, they have been trying to take over korea, only to be beat back time and time again by China, and most recently, the US. They committed major atrosities every time, and tried killing the Korean culture many times. That's why they seem so similar to people who don't know the full story. Many old timers of them still remember their parents and family members being killed off or impressed into service. The younger generations aren't as fervant, but they still hate japan.

 

And, it's not even so much different dialects the way we have them here, it's 80% of the language is changed between provinces. So, take a pocket dictionary, remove 80% of it, and that's all you can learn that is going to be similar everywhere. And, there is no predominant dialect. Plus, the only thing similar to 'Merican is that they have different dialects in the cities and the country, but it's a whole different dialect, and they're different between local cities. It'd be like Baltimore speaking spanglish, Washington speaking a frenglish, and the area between speaking Spench. Ends up with you having a hard time going between two cities that are 50 miles apart.

 

Japaneese, you at least have a majority speaking Tokyo dialect, an Okinawin main dialect, and different dialects that are only on minor islands. Korean, you need to learn eiter just one dialect and only go to the center of that specific province, or lean 13 different words for the same thing so you can go between all 13 provinces. (plus an additional 50 or so charecters for each province, and a bunch of chineese expressions for if you're dealing with older folks)

 

Anyway, how dacrap do we keep going soooooooo of topic on here???????

 

lol

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I thought back right after WWII, Captain Arthur McDougles (or whatever) got moved to Japan to show them the American way (or the ways of war, how to run a country ect) to do things, then found out later that the communist part of Korea was attacking the patriotism part of Korea, so Captain McDougles helped out the patriotism part of Korea, then china helped the communism part of Korea, then they all came up with a peace treaty and is now called north and south Korea. Are you saying this didn't happen?

And I don't know how we keep going off topic LOL! You can message me if you would rather.

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No, I said that before they lost WWII, they had been trying to take over Korea for 500,000 or something like that.

 

After WWII, they were a puppet of the UN until about the 70's. And, if it was up to them, they would have attacked the DMZ and split and concored both, except they couldn't because of the treaties that basically stopped them from having more than police.

 

In WWII, they would set up movie theaters, hundreds of people'd go in, they'd lock the doors, turn on the lights, and every single male about 15-40 years old would be impressed into service for japan. The rest? Usually killed in cold blood.

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Sp those Japanese lady's with really white faces, kamodoes, and umbrellas weren't really actress's? They where ninja murders? Lol

How did they try to attack for 500,000 years when there are only 2,011 years? Even with Christianity there are only like, 4,000+ years. 2,000 before Christ died, 2,000 after Christ died. The years reset after he died. >_>

There isn't enough proof that there have been 500,000 years. Non the less 8,000,000,000 years. The fossils are as much proof as we get, and those don't even have 8,000,000,000 years on them.

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Just so you know, I'm not trying to attack you and put you on the defensive, I seriously don't understand.

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A bit off topic here ? 

It says, say something here --- so I have

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