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IS This a Clone, or A Newer Version ?
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Freeonthree
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February 8, 2012 - 1:52 pm

Got my Blue one today, from Hobby Toy Store, thru Amazon.

The tx is defective, but has a smooth panel, and it looks correct.

The heli has two black motor end caps, not one white like my yellow one, and the red one I just sent back due to a defective circuit board.

There is no lettering on the windshield, and on the canopy, it just says S107 in front of the mounting screw. 

After two bummers in a row, im losing interest in these heli's quickly. 

This blue one doesn't sound precision either, very grungy compared to my yellow one (latest version)

  

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CPD
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February 8, 2012 - 2:03 pm

Might be. It should have swirly blades, not the bar looking blades like the yellow/red. (it has leftovers from the 105 that they never needed because almost nobody wants blue–although as such, the produce less, and they're more expensive if you want a blue, which is stupid)

 

http://www.amazon.com/gp/produ.....B004ET7GK0

 

(I wouldn't recomend buying these blades, since they're more expensive than what I've bought blades for, but that's what they look like)

 

The odd part is, if it's a clone, that's just plain weird, because they mostly only clone/fake the yellow, and sometimes red. They almost never do it with blue.

 

If it's a clone, don't write it off. I've heard many good things for clones. Many are built better than the real ones. The other thing is, it could possably be like my h107, and be one that was returned, and had a motor replaced with a black one. In that case, the other motor might be a little older, but it'll probably have other stuff that already broke and is now fixed, which could be better than new. (all of the defective parts aren't there, and you'll not have any problems)

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Freeonthree
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February 8, 2012 - 2:24 pm

This new one has those blades like in your Amazon link. I don't like this blue heli, it sounds like a thrashing machine even after greasing the gears. I thought the grease made it better, but my yellow one blows it away. Dentist drill verses a jack hammer.  My Yellow one sounds like it was made by Lockheed Aircraft, and Blue sounds like it was made by Hasbro Toys.

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Old_Iron_Spine
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February 8, 2012 - 4:33 pm

Hm, interesting. It's probably a fake. Clones have distinguished rotor blades (black) and are basically just like the real deal. Fakes look just like them, are claimed to be syma, and are not. I also think that clones use syma parts, but they are made by someone out of their house.

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Freeonthree
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February 8, 2012 - 5:45 pm

I talked to Amazon, they issued a refund and told me to keep it for parts or dispose of it myself. I declined and said I want their test team to see what Hobby Toy Store sent me, and he agree'd that was a great idea. Got the shipping label now....

We have enough problems without people sending out garbage.

Here's the issues...  Lots of them...

Bad transmitter, Heli goes forward, but turns left at the same time, yikes !  Almost crashed !

Bad gears or bent shaft, very noisey, and plusing click sound.

The box was ok, but there was a styrofoam surround in the box, unlike the other 3 newer versions.

Heli only says S107 on the sides, in front of the canopy mounting screws.

No text on the sides of the windshield.

Both motors have black end caps.

Heli will suddenly stop and drop like a rock, luckily on the bed, twice in 5 minutes !  Yikes !

Also, this blue is way darker than the blue on Amazons website, almost black as the windshield.

It goes back tomorrow... I love Amazon...  What a great bunch of people working there Laugh

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Old_Iron_Spine
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February 8, 2012 - 5:50 pm

Does amazon test and examine their products before they ship? It'll save them money cause they won't have to sell a bunch of defected items. I had a 031 and it ALWAYS went backwards, and never forwards. So, disappointingly, I had to return it. But I get to order a new one this Friday 😀

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Old_Iron_Spine
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February 8, 2012 - 5:52 pm

Oh, and my next 031 isn't coming from amazon, I like them too. But I decided I might have better luck ordering from a online hoppy shop like xheli or helipal, cause I figured they tested them out before shipping.

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Freeonthree
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February 8, 2012 - 6:00 pm

Yes, they have their own test team.  I want them to see this one, I don't need the parts, but it was nice of them to offer. We need to let Amazon deal with those guys sending out defective or old stock merchandise.

I think I got a defective, returned older version. Grrrrrrr....  Im sure they will love trying to fly blue around the office with his tx, oh boy !    I'll put a detailed explanation of all the issue's, so they will be armed and ready  Surprised  Duck !   lol  

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drewdane
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February 8, 2012 - 8:06 pm

Old_Iron_Spine said:

Does amazon test and examine their products before they ship?

This wasn't bought from Amazon, directly. It was a third party, who sells on Amazon. It sounds like it may be rebuilt. That would explain 2 black-top motors, and mismatched blades.

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Freeonthree
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February 8, 2012 - 8:11 pm

The blades were all the same, not mismatched. Amazon just issued the refund, should have the cash to reorder in a couple days. Mine came from Hobby Toy Store, but it's going back to Amazon Test Team per my request.

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drewdane
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February 8, 2012 - 8:47 pm

But not matching the heli, right? I got the impression it was a newer heli with older blades.

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Freeonthree
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February 8, 2012 - 9:14 pm

The color was correct, but not the pattern, unless blue has a different pattern. If it flew fine and didn't have a bad tx, and wasn't noisey, and didn't stop and fall suddenly, I would have kept it, unless it was definently a clone or fake.

Im just going to get another yellow one from Battery Superstore, like my first one, which has maybe 50 flights on it, and fly's and sounds perfect, with no vibration. The Blue one must have been an old version return that never got fixed or something.

Im off to bed, take care guys, don't wad nuthin up...  Dennis 

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CPD
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February 9, 2012 - 12:00 am

Yeah, the next helis I'm buying, I'm buying through amazon, but it's worth the few cents to buy them through amazon but from xheli. I think part of the problem is the cheaper ones are getting to be so many returned helis that they have to repair, then sell again. I wonder how many syma's actually making and how many are just rebuilt ones. If you wanted ones that are guarenteed real, I guess buy the green or white ones for $30.

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bobO
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February 9, 2012 - 12:20 am

Bummer Free, but don't give up yet. Amazon always tells you who the 2nd party is. Battery superstore seems tell sell good stuff. I've flown the pants off my S107 since I've got it with nary a problem. Dealing with Amazon is the way to go in my book there not going any where and really seem to care, hard to find any more. Keep us updated on what they say about blue.

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Freeonthree
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February 9, 2012 - 5:55 am

Amazon already issued the refund for blue, and told me to keep it for parts. I said no, I want Amazons test team to see what was sent to me, so it's going to their test team for full inspection and test flight. We need to get to the bottom of this, and I don't need the parts.

I just want a new version, correct S107G, thats all. I want another heli of yellows quality.

Im only ordering yellow from now on, since myself and all my friends received perfect yellow S107G's. 

Red came from Battery Superstore, and I trust them. Red was in fact a new version, but probably just had a cold solder joint on the PCB, and thats not surprizing, it's quite common in lots of mass produced electronics.

If it wasn't under warrantee, I would have either repaired the PCB, or installed a new one. All else was fine…

As a mechanic, i've received faulty starters, alternators, computerized engine control sensors, etc…  not uncommon at all these days. In this case, were dealing with highly mass produced electronics from China, so it's kinda expected to see a few defectives.  Im not upset, worried, or ready to give up, but I did consider it. Then I flew yellow and decided that it was just a fluke, and Amazon has taken very good care of me, so im still in the game.

I can't wait for the test team to see what I received as a new blue S107G. I even charged it up for them, so they don't have to.

Told em it's ready to be test flown, and exactly what to expect it to do when they fly it.   Dennis

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Freeonthree
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February 9, 2012 - 6:07 am

CPD said:

Yeah, the next helis I'm buying, I'm buying through amazon, but it's worth the few cents to buy them through amazon but from xheli. I think part of the problem is the cheaper ones are getting to be so many returned helis that they have to repair, then sell again. I wonder how many syma's actually making and how many are just rebuilt ones. If you wanted ones that are guarenteed real, I guess buy the green or white ones for $30.

I love the white !  The green is awesome too...  But im very afraid now.  I trust the yellow one's right now.

Are you sure the white and green one's are all new versions ?  has anyone out here got a green or white yet ?

I'll order a white one if their definently a new version. I can live with yellow, white, and green  Laugh

All my friends got yellow one's from Battery Superstore, I made sure of that, and so far, they are all perfect.

Too bad I wasn't getting a commission. I think I sold over 10

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seaturtle
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February 9, 2012 - 7:24 am

i have a white one.its a new version.flys perfect.i reversed the wires on rear motor and use a picooz rotor with motor in stock position.stays in air much longer than stock rotor.btw,my white one has black caps on both motors and my blue one ,which is a new s107g with older style graphics,has white caps on motor.i doubt it matters any.also,all my 107g's have been packed in styrofoam:)

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bobO
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February 9, 2012 - 7:39 am

Yeah my yellow also has black caps on both motors and it really is more of a precision "toy" then one would expect for under 30$ .

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Freeonthree
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February 9, 2012 - 7:48 am

Hmmm... This is getting confusing now.  I guess whatever they send me, if it's ok, i'll just keep it. I would have kept the blue and red one's if they worked correctly, but they didn't. Personally, I like the styrofoam packing alot better, but have never seen or heard of it with these before. Mine have been cardboard and clear plastic till blue arrived, so I got suspecious.

The two black motors didn't thrill me either after reading the clone / fake thread.

Form now on, if it operates correctly, I won't worry about anything else.   Dennis 

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bvc
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February 9, 2012 - 9:35 am

My daughter is supposed to get her white today. Will see. My other daughter received her blue firebird today along with my black. I'm stuck at work.

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