The Syma S107 Review
Syma S107 - My Review
Welcome to My Madness on Indoor RC Helicopters.Especially Syma Helicopters
I started this hobby a few years ago, because I have always been fascinated in aviation. I found it was a fairly cheap hobby to get started in. I was not really wanting to build a model at that time, but to be able to buy a RC heli completed and ready to fly-Welcome the electric RC helicopter, especially the mini helicopters that you can fly at home. Syma helicopters are just the best mini rc heli to start out with.
After buying around 11 RC helicopters, smashing the hell out of them and rebuilding them time again with spare parts, I came across the SYMA S107 also known as Syma S107G.
My Syma S107 Review:
The Syma S107 is a coaxial helicopter, having two main rotors stacked on top of each other.
The picture below shows how these two rotors spin in the opposite direction of each other and thereby cancel out the reactive torque that is produced by each.
Having two rotors also produces a significant gyroscopic effect that further stabilizes the helicopter. This makes this style of helicopter extremely stable and great for a beginner starting in RC Helicopter flying.
The Syma 3 channel S107 mini helicopter comes in a variety of colors, including blue, red, and yellow. However due to being so popular not always able to get the color one wants. I now have a Syma107 in every color-(told you am heli crazy)
Inside the box you get the helicopter itself, sturdy and well made, a infra red remote control with 3 channels built in , so that more than one toy won’t interfere with the other.
Also included is the proprietary USB cable that allows the RC helicopter to be recharged in just around 30 mins or less, when you plug it into a PC. Tip: When usb yellow charge wire pluged into PC will show a red light, check the brightness. When you plug Syma heli to charge light goes out. Fully charged when red light comes up bright as before, faint flickering red light not fully charged so wait. Always wait 10-15 mins between flying before charging to let battery cool down, helps for longer battery life-hard to wait I know!
You can also charge it direct from the remote. The S107 has a built in rechargeable battery. The remote control itself takes 6 AA batteries, so you may need to buy some when giving the Syma as a present to someone else.
It is a Serious Toy for Adults and Kids.
The latest 2010 version by the famous SYMA Toy Company, equipped with a 4-in-1 infra-red receiver (Gyro, ESC, Mixer, Receiver). This palm size S107 Toy Helicopter (18.5cm long) comes with Aluminum Frame and a Great detail canopy, it doesn't look like a toy, but a very serious Helicopter. It is able to move in 3 Direction based on the 3 Channels, anyone can hover it easily. Since it is made with Aluminum Frame, very light weight and almost indestructible in any crash, perfect for very first time beginners. This helicopter is designed for anyone over 8 years old, flight time is around 5-8 minutes after 20-35 minutes charging by USB or Remote. It can fly in 6 directions. They are:
- Rotate Clockwsie / Anti-Clockwise
- Move Forward / Backward
- Move Up / Down
Flexible blades & balance bar-less damage on crashing.
What the Syma S107 is supplied with and some boxes they come in-Beware boxes without Syma Logo-Could be Fake or Clone.
FAKE OR CLONE BOX-NO SYMA LOGO
Infra red 3 channel remote supplied
USB Charging for your SymaS107
Some More Syma S107 Specifications:
Miniature size & light weight. Super wide infrared control miniature design for indoor flying 19cm long and weighing an incredible 34 grams.
Controlled by 32-level high precision speed. Auto stable, rotor blade system for steady lifting-up.3-Channel Helicopter movement forward / backward / up / down / left / right.High tenacity propeller.
POWERED BY 2 SOLID MOTORS WITH A 3RD MOTOR IN THE TAIL ROTOR.
High capability, dynamical Li-Poly battery. Can be recharged through the transmitter provided or USB Port
Charging and power indicator.
Main Body: Alloy metal
Can be simply charged by your computer via included USB cable or remote.
Controlled by digital technology. Infra red control system.
Tri-band Technology. Nonintervention used 3 bands.
High efficiency, driving motor and surge power.
Flying time: 6-8 minutes.
Charge time: 20-35 minutes. Depends if using usb to charge or remote-usb quicker.
Additional Information
Manufacturer (Heli) Syma
Power System Electric
Channels 3CH
Main Rotor Diam. 190mm
Overall Length 220mm
Weight 34g
Battery Helicopter battery: 3.7v Rechargeable lithium polymer battery
Transmitter Infrared control system - bands A, B.
If you have lost or would like to view the Syma S107 Manual- Download here pdf file
Problems I Found With The Syma S107:
I have to say there were not many-However there are some fakes out there-things to look for is--
1: Correct to have a square type charge outlet on the Syma107 not round-from some forums seems to have a soldering problem. Some fake photos below of rotor fakes.
Fake
Fake Syma 107 Info As Below
The main blade holder of fake S107 is made of metal, the genuine one is plastic in pure black color. The main blade of the genuine Syma S107 have a few lines about the warning. However, the fake one only have the word “WARNING"- Something to check. I do own a clone-It still fly's well: Clones are different to fakes: READ POST
2: Out of the box the SymaS107 should fly with only minor trim alteration which is in the middle of your remote- start to throttle up-when flying and turning to left or right trim using the remote-should be one notch-If the SymaS107 spins like crazy after adjusting trim, something is wrong, do not take it apart -send it back-Hence I only buy from reputable dealers, like Amazon
3: Can be a problem binding the Syma to your remote - is easy to fix tho-Try this- Switch on the transmitter and place next to the S107. Switch on the S107 and stand in front of the transmitter till the flashing green light goes solid. You should now be ready to fly.
4: Because this is a stable heli, your crash rate should be low until you get cocky- good thing is parts are cheap to replace. (Spare Parts Syma S107)
5: Do not fly near digital TV or charge near one- watch out for very bright room lights,to me this is a indoor heli only and can not stand a breeze out side or a bright sunny day as the remote is infra red- If you want a heli to fly outside the SymaS107 in my opinion is not designed to do this - Having said that I do fly mine at night with no breeze on occasions. When flying inside try not to get to close to your ceiling as air turbulence will effect it and lose control-this happens with any indoor helicopter.Turn off fans and do not fly near air conditioners-Pretty obvious really.
6: It takes 20-35 minutes to charge the fitted battery- this can be a pain as you can not wait to fly this little bird more and more- To charge by remote takes longer and soon burns out your AA remote batteries - Use the USB supplied- hell quicker to charge.
7: Another tip: After a flight with any fixed battery helicopter a good idea is to let the battery cool down before you recharge-Reason being it will preserve the battery longer as they do get warm -That is why I have a few Syma helicopters being charged by my USB- So look for good deals to buy two-Only my view.
8: One small issue I had was flying backwards-The heli looses altitude and gets a little bogged down, it does go backwards but real slow. If you are looking for big flying speed backwards this heli might not be for you. I never fly backwards can not see the point prefer forward and spins. There is a modification on tail rotor. Did try it and yes makes a difference but burns up battery power if flying backwards all the time-Syma S107 left as it is to me just great. Want more from your heli buy a bigger more expensive one.
The Great Points:
Where to start: This is without doubt the best little mother heli I have owned-it is so stable. As soon as you stop going forward or back, she just hovers awaiting your next move-problem I found was I just got so cocky flying the bird that I started to dive bomb my dog who eventually won out by jumping from a chair and grabbing it in its mouth -Pain for both-The dog won, hence I bought two more Syma S107.
But from my heart this great helicopter at it's price that you should be able to buy for around $20- $25 shipped is the best value in life, and will give kids from 8 to a old fart like me at 60yrs old the greatest fun ever- I get excited every time this bird is charged and ready to fly- As I have 6 of them now my poor old computer is constantly charging my Syma 107. I am "Excited"
To be really honest I am amazed at the quality of the Syma S 107 for the price. I would have liked to see a better remote not being infra red and a bit more robust, however it does the job, and again for the price one can not really complain. Have seen replacement remotes for $11 should you break yours-not good idea to drop it on concrete floor!
I am working on some modifications with battery. I have one stripped to the bones at the moment as like a kid want to see how it works so well-you need a small screw driver set for this.
Screwdriver Set What I did was rub a magnet on the required screw driver to magnetize it so able to hold the very small screws to the screw driver, helps a lot.
Would I Buy The 107G Syma
100% Yes from me!
WHERE TO BUY THE SYMA S107 WITH SAFETY
Here are my trusted links below that I have personally bought from- I am always trying to find the best value, but also genuine Syma's sold with trust and back up to return if defective in anyway.
For Syma Helicopters:
I have purchased many RC Helicopters and Drones from Amazon - Yes good experience.. Just search on site for Syma, heaps to view.
I have posted a Syma S107 Spare parts page
All the Syma Helicopters That I have bought from Amazon have not been fakes also any problems Amazon have a return policy.
Yes you can buy cheap Syma S107 spare parts- View Here
I do not recommend buying from Ebay as there are too many fakes there, I found out myself buying 4 all fakes and never flew out of the box.
The Syma S107 is a fantastic helicopter: I have a forum now set up- Feel free to view and post on Syma helis and Syma Quadcopters, also posts for other RC helicopters.
Realease of the new X3 Syma Quad.
Complete review of the X3 by Supernova Now Live
View my complete review of the SYMA S800G
Syma S107 Modifications:
I have taken Syma S107 Mods to a different page as was getting a much bigger project: Please visit the latest page on Modifications to your Syma S107- Always building on this concept. Dales battery mod is great****
Some Syma Picks From Me On Amazon Below
Getting Started-What is A Mini- Helicopter
Syma S800G New Release - Full Review
Review Syma X3 In house Review
Some good Syma videos: Main Video Page
top rota blades don’t turn on my s107 just brought it as well any ideas?
Sounds like your inner shaft is slipping. Just below the fly bar are 2 small screws. The inner shaft where it goes into the head (upper blades and fly bar ect)has a flat spot on it. This flat spot must be lined up with one of the screws to be tightened down with. The screw on the other side simply tightens to the shaft. It important that the one screw is tightened to that flat spot on the shaft. Mine came like that as well and that is what it was. If not then you have a lower gear slipping on the shaft, but think the above is your fix.
tony i found the problem, the solder is very poor on the circuit board had to re solder the top blade motor again micro surgery or what but its fixed now
Good deal, never thought to mention that :/ Glad ya got it. soldering on those things is a bear!
I said it before, the soldering job on the copters are not the best. always check there first. It is a cold solder connection issue that occurs when both items to be joint don’t reach the same sufficient temp to join causing them to be weak.
Hi I got one of these helicopters on Thursday and I crashed it a couple times and fine. Till today my helicopters back router wont work it works at time and then won’t can you help
i found that the soldering on the circuit board is very poor ,i had to do some micro surgery on mine with the soldering iron it strips down pretty well . advice use a small magnetized screw driver the screw,s are a nightmare and a pair of tweezers do come in handy .
also there are three motor,s
Hi, I just got one of these amazing helicopters and for the first 5 minutes it was flying fantastically.
However after a crash it appears to have gained the “Toilet Bowl Effect” and now will not even take off without doing so slightly backwards, then does a very fast “TPE” with a slight wobble at about 12″ off the ground and then crashing.
Does anyone have any advice, I cannot see any broken pieces and the top rotors and balance bar are lovely and balanced and very smooth to move, so I can’t see any obvious reason for this instability.
Could it be something as silly as worn batteries in the control unit?
Really doubt it’s batteries. Did you read the TBE links I posted below? The usual suspects would be the little dogbone control buckles that attach the little ball joints on the upper blade grips to the little ball joints on the balance bar. those have to be attached just barely over the ball joint so that they move very freely. Even if they look fine take them off and put them back on with just enough pressure so that they work. Beyond that, my only suggestions would be to make sure that one of the wires to the motors isn’t shorting under the clip and make sure the rotor screws are just loose enough so that the rotors swing freely but no freer. Make sure the gears are working smoothly and meshing OK. But the little unit that attaches the flybar to the top rotors is culprit #1, even if it seems OK. From my own experience, it’s hard to know what OK is if you haven’t dealt with several of them.
Hi
Yes I saw the TBE links, however I have found the problem. The Inner Shaft needs replacing… the 2 bits of plastic that protruse into the upper rotors have snapped off, its not obvious at first glance but whenI compared my Inner Shaft to a picture of a spare they are clearly snapped.
Fortunately the part is not expensive!
There is a screw which holds the plasic parts on top to the inner shaft. You might just be able to buy a set of upper blade grips. If you do buy an inner shaft assembly, I would recommend just unscrewing the top assembly and screwing on a new one, instead of taking the inner shaft off the gears. Easier and safer.
@Don your input is really neat.It is so nice to see someone like you giving great advice-I know the effort required-Thanks buddy!
charge it for one hour then adjust the trim to and see ur bird fly high !!!!
Is ferntech.co.nz a TRUSTED site to buy the s107 at? please reply
Theodre1-mate am in Sydney and can get sent from RCfever genuine Syma heli for $40 posted,know your dollar is different but from ferntech.com looks like $65 all up-never bought from them ,looks genuine but getting up there in price.Keep us posted.SF
hello,,, i also have a syma s107 3 channel miniheli red,,, when i try to charge it via the remote method the light doesn’t change to red,, it does not charge at all even if it is fresh out of the box,,? can you help me,,
@Malone have you tried charging using usb cable supplied?
Hi,
I just received my Syma 109g Apache today. A bunch of friends have the 107. Right out of the box the tail rotor would spin when I was only giving the main blades throttle. Also when I did use the right joystick to make it go forward, it would give the heli more lift power and it would shoot to the ceiling. Is there any type of throttle trim for the tail rotor?
Thanks
@Tyler does the tail motor work?
Tyler, the tail rotor will only spin when the main rotors are powered, even if just a little. Let off the power to the main rotor, lose power to the rear. Your symptoms sound very suspicious.
My helicopter upper blades are loose and wobble during flight. This causes them to hit the lower blades and the heli crashes. Is there an easy fix to this type problem?
Sounds very much like one of the little dogbone connecter buckles that attach the ball joints of the upper rotor grip and flybar came loose. That exact thing has happened to me a dozen times. Other possibility is that the dogbones are on too far. They need to rest just barely on the ball joints.
Or… “I have noticed a mechanical failure of the main rotor assembly on my heli… Specifically one or both of the attachment points which allow the upper set of blades to rotate with the counterweight have been sheared off in a collision. The whole assembly can be easily gotten on amazon.com for a couple dollars.”
@warchild00 see you are also on the forum-appreciate your feed back
Hi.
I have a friend that got his syma s107 a week ago.
It Worked perfectly until today
When he throttles up the heli goes up but it doesen´t stop doing sircular moves.
He has tried everything but it doesen´t stop doing it.
Please help.
He wood apreciate the help
Thanks
Is it moving around in circles kind of like water going down a toilet? That’s called the “Toilet Bowl Effect” or TBE for short. Or is it spinning around as though the trim dial in the middle of the controller was all the way to one side?
It´s TBE
Can it bev repaired?
It can be repaired. But first you have to figure out what’s broken, and that can be hard. First, make sure that the blades are all tight. They can move from side to side, but they shouldn’t move up and down where they’re screwed on. Make sure the little dogbone things that connect to the balance bar are both placed on correctly on the plastic knobs. They kind of just fit over the ball ends. They should rock easily side-to-side. Here is a good article on TBE: http://www.rchelicopterfun.com/toilet-bowl-effect.html I used it just now to fix a stubborn TBE problem on one of my S107’s caused by a crash earlier today! What he says about “don’t even worry about the lower rotor” isn’t 100% correct for S107’s. Because I solved a really bad case once by tightening a loose screw on one of the lower rotor blades. He illustrates with a different heli, but I can vouch for what he’s saying.
Here’s another really good link on TBE just for the S107:
http://www.squidoo.com/toilet-bowl-effect-syma-s107-helicopter
I’m starting to wonder if I might have done something to the connect buckles (little dogbone shaped things) when I tightened the lower blade that time, without even realizing it.
Check the flybar connections! With the top blades fairly straight, you should be able to move the flybar completely up and down just by blowing on it.
-Don
Hi .
I have this helicopter nearly 2 weeks. It worked great untill now.
When i throttle my heli to go up it goes up, but it doesen´t stop doing sircular movments.
i thought that the heli had some lose parts.
but it didn´t.
Ive tried everithing but it still doesent stop doing it
Please help
Hi you all.
My syma s107 just got here yesterday.
Thank you for your advice aboute this helicopter, it´s great.
This morning I was wondering:
(My Syma s107 charges in 45 minutes and after charging I have 7 minutes of flight.)
Is there an helicopter that has more than 7 minuts of flight?
Pleas Reply
Not really. A heli can only lift just so heavy of a LiPo battery and LiPo batteries can only power a heli for so long. 7 minutes is a decent flight time. Let the battery cool before recharging. Some of the more expensive helis have removable batteries. This is a nice one: http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B003EXPDAC/ref=as_li_tf_tl?ie=UTF8&tag=yf01-20&linkCode=as2&camp=217145&creative=399369&creativeASIN=B003EXPDAC. But it’s a lot cheaper to just buy more S107s. I keep four charged all the time. I usually don’t feel like flying for more than 1/2 an hour. I use an old 4-port USB port to charge them.
I’m sure it’s been mentioned and saw many responses when I asked in my RC Heli forum regarding my S107 sitting on the ground spinning clockwise and not lifting off I got varying answers from bad battery to lower gear spinning on inner shaft and how to fix that. Well after doing micro surgery and taking everything apart (got to know heli real well lol) I found the problem…
Actually the inner shaft was spinning in the head at the upper blades. Blades were turning but slipping enough not to spin fast enough. Was almost unnoticeable. The shaft has a tiny flat spot on it for the set screw to sit in. Both screws (on each side) were loose. I aligned the flat spot in inner shaft with one screw hole a tightened it down then tightened the other side against the shaft as well and everything was fine.
Have ordered a few more 107’s and the first thing is to check everything to make sure all screws are tight. Especially where the inner shaft goes into the head.
Hi there, my Syma S105 is almost the same as the S107, could you tell me more about this problem because im getting it too and i dont really understand what you talking about with the fix for it
thanks.
Hi i got some money for my birthday and saw this helicopter and i was wondering if this one is a fake here is the link to the one im thinking about buying and was hoping you could tell me if it was fake.
sorry here is the link-Click here to view
The link you sent looks good.
I’ve gotten really good helis from the Battery Superstore on Amazon: You can get red ones from them too. But for some reason the yellow ones are better. Go figure.
If you get a defective heli from Amazon you can just return it for a refund and then try one of their other vendors.
Thanks
Hi, I am beginner to fly helicopters but I’m already addicted to it.
I was gonna buy the Syma 107. From the videos I saw on youtube the Syma 107
is a very good helicopter. I went to this website and y saw that the helicopter had some problems.
Should i buy it?
Or should i buy another helicopter?
Please help me.
Thanks!!
@DaVe The Syma S107 is a great heli for the price-The problem is there are a few fake ones being sold which gives this heli some bad press-However if you buy a genuine one they are really cool to fly-As you will see on this blog a lot of input from people with photos to show you what to look for in fakes- RcFever is the best I can recommend at this stage,however postage expensive- Amazon is still ok as long as you do your research on the seller-Amazon is not to hard to return products.post or contact me before you buy as we will all try to guide you to buying a genuine heli
Dave,
Syma S107s are great. Even quite a few people with very expensive outdoor helis like to fly these in the house. Be sure to get the real thing. This site shows you how to do that.
Look at the reviews on Amazon.com. For every bad review, you’ll see a bunch of good ones. Look at YouTube:
Top 10 RC Helicopters in the World (guess which one is #1)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4ZLXOCCV31
Top 10 Best Toy Helicopter Remote Control (guess which one is #1)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a6u1-6Gs6S8w&feature=related
To get my take on them, see my post below from August 28, 2011 at 4:06 pm
“Some comment about my experience with S107s. Might be helpful for new S107 owners.”
-Don
OK thanks!!
I have a S107G that has started acting up. The helicopter was working great till I changed the battries in the remote. Now all it will do is spin counterclockwise, even with the trim all the way to the right. I do not see any damage to the body of any kind but some on the main rotor blades. I have removed the battries out of the controler and alloued the helicopter to be full dead for a full 24 hours thinking maybe when the battries were put in it messed with the programing but had no luck. I also tried replacing the main rotor blades still no luck. Any other ideas?
@Merlen you are saying was flying ok until you changed batteries on remote-? that is strange-do you turn your remote on first then the heli to bind?
Yes I always turn on the remote first and work the controles as said in the manual. Then I turn on the Heli.
The top rotors, powered by the rear motor, turn the heli counterclockwise. The bottom rotors, powered by the front motor, turn it clockwise. So, probably, the bottom rotors are weak. The tab holding the front motor down could be grounding a wire. The gears to the front motor could not be smooth. Or, the front motor could just be bad. Really doubt it’s the battery or controller. Can it take off and hover? If top and bottom rotors are at full power it should be able to. If it sits on the floor and spins counterclockwise, it’s probably something to do with the bottom rotors. Damage to the rotors has to be really bad to affect flight much. I’ve chewed them up terribly crashing into things. It only causes a very slight instability. If it really happened when you changed batteries, check the tab on the front motor. A tiny movement could short that out.
This may be overly simplistic, have you nulled the rotation on th controller? You said you changed the batteries and that involves handling the remote and I don’t know about anyone else but I have a hard time not turning the nob on the control by accident. That gets turned and the heli will do the swirly.
Yes, it will take off and hover but it spins in mid air. I checked the tabs on both motors and made sure they were not touching any of the wires. Also I have took apart the remote to see if the trim knob might have a short but everything there looks ok.
It sounds like it’s acting the same as it would if you used left rudder all the time.
Since this happened while the helicopter was sitting there, and you changed batteries, maybe it’s the controller after all. The next step would be to try another controller and see if it’s the controller or the heli.
Other than that, I’m out of ideas.
-Don
Hi, do you know if there is any way to fly more than 1 at a time? Thx
@Curt there is a post on the forum here that might help
I have a Syma that will intermittendly lose signal and cause the heli to drop for a split second, then it tries to regain that loss. It does it every 5 to 10 seconds of flying or so. Not sure what it could be and the antenna is soldered on tight too. Fresh batteries in the transmitter and charged heli as well. It’s a Syma S033G and only 4 days old.
Also…I was outside where I have been flying it like normal several times and it just does this. It’s so weird. Wish they came with more advanced troubleshooting guides than the Engrish troubleshooting “My heli won’t fly — make sure heli is on” – yeah no crap. hehe
I know leaking signals from Cable tv hard line can cause RF interference in Radios. That could be your problem. Try different locations to fly and see if that fixes it. There is also something known as a cold solder connection. They are notorious for causing intermittent signal drop out. They are hard to find sometimes. Found one on a S031 tail motor by accident. Crashed it, it was un ugly crash too, and a wire on the tail tail rotor at the solder contact. wire didn’t break, the solder did.
So when your S031 had the issue with the tail motor…how did that affect the signal and overall thrust on the heli? Is it all connected somehow. I will look for things like that on mine to see if that could be the problem.
Well it was fling well till the crash. Upon inspection I noticed that the solder connection on the positive lead to the to the motor had broken probably due to the crash. That type of thing results from not getting both halves of the hot enough for the solder to bond them. I was lucky to find it because it may break at a bad time on its own. In other cases a thing like that could cause components on circuit boards to pop loose causing a bizarre result. On antennas it can cause intermittent signal interruption. Ones found they are easy to fix with a soldering iron. I wish that the Helli’s came with more detailed repair guides. What good is have abundant parts if you don’t know how to use them and when.
Has it flown OK since then? Just ordered a S033G myself. Any advice on it?
The red heli in the photo near the top of this page seems to have acustom landing gear. I’m curious about it. It looks like it loops around at the front. Did that mod work out?
@Don All that has been done there is to loosen landing gear and move both silver bars forward-you have to watch out for center of gravity-to me a waste of time as dips the nose to much-can be faster more control required
Some comment about my experience with S107s. Might be helpful for new S107 owners. I’ve had a lot of fun with these. My friends are amused; but 5 of them have bought them so far. I’ve gotten them from Amazon and a few from X-heli, always for ~$20 with tax and shipping.
Here’s my comments:
(1) If you like these you will end up with a few of them. At $20 each it’s fairly affordable. Then you can fly some while others are charging or awaiting repair, etc. I use an old 4-port USB charger just for the helis, and keep four of them flying. (I also keep spare new ones around.)
(2) The quality is amazing for $20; but don’t expect perfect QC at that price. Me and my friends have bought and flown 13. 2 lost rear motors after just a few bad crashes involving the top blades. The rest were rugged. 2 of the other 11 died after 100’s of brutal crashes and 9 are still flyin; some after several hundred crashes. Figure on some minor repairs now and then. Spare parts are available, but cannibalizing broken helis is handy and cost effective. So don’t freak if you get a bad heli or break one fast; just get another and use the bad one for parts. Try a different supplier. If you get a really good one, consider trying to get more from the exact same batch right away. Some S107s are just a little smoother, faster and ruggeder than others.
(3) What’s been fun for me is trying crazier and harder things. (Landing and taking off from high cabinets, in and out of the bathtub, etc. I’ve even started landing on 20+ degree tilted blades of our overhead fan 12 feet up. The downdraft from the heli makes the blades move.) Such stuff means some repairs and even new additions to my “helicopter graveyard”; but not all that often. Especially as I gain skill.
(4) It helps a *lot* to modify the controller. Change the throttle from spring return to friction as shown in the video on this site. And tune the variable resister on the right side at the bottom of the joystick mount to center/adjust the forward/reverse action. I owe this site a video on how to do that. If you get multiple helis you’ll get multiple controllers. Modify them and try them out. Some are better than others, and you can try different mods. I’m running 6 of them right now. Some will be gifts for friends who only have a stock controller.
(5) I’m confident that there is no other heli which offers more fun for the dollar than these. I’ve read many postings by people who own several better, larger and more expensive helis who still keep and fly these as well.
Found this really nice magnetic screwdriver for working on my S107s:
Newest Phillips Micro Screwdriver: #000 Size Magnetic/Hardened Tip, Swivel Press Handle, Improved Optimum Tip Angle for a Better Fit on Micro Screws
Got it here: http://www.wowhobbies.com/tools.aspx
hey im having problems with my heli. it does not hover in place but spins like as i a toilet bowl. any ideas on how to fix?
One time I was able to fixed a bad case of TBE (Toilet Bowl effect) by tightening the bottom blade screws. So check that none of the blades are too loose.
August 2011 I bought my son a Syma S107 at a local State Fair. It has a ton of LEDs on it. Ton = 8 LEDs, 3 each side, one in front and one on the tail. I have bought 2 since on line from 2 different vendors and they only have one. Pretty sure that they are all Syma. Does anyone have any idea why this would be?
My Syma S107 was working fine until it started to spin out of control. I noticed the bottom blade gears started spinning just after the top, but perhaps not as fast. The gears look fine. What could it be?
Might be the front motor.
Could be your Gyro too…That happened to mine and I basically use it as parts now.
i bought one. unfortunately it got heavy fall then broken it’s top black color rod. it is not flying now…. any help
You’ll have to replace the balance bar. You can get one here: Amazon direct link there’s a video on replacing it in the repairs section of this site.
my s107 hovers fine but when I try to turn right or left it spins too fast until i release ruder then it hovers fine again. What’s the problem?
You mean the main rotors speed up when you move the left stick to the left or to the right? So the helicopter lifts higher when you turn? Please specify what you mean by “spins to fast”.
When I move the left/right stick to the left or to the right the heli starts to spin out of control to the left or right. When I release the stick the heli hovers just fine.
mine does the same when i do full power to the left or right it just falls what can i do
when it goes clockwise or anticlockwise it just dosent turn normally pls some help
That’s a problem I haven’t seen yet. Have you tried using a different controller? I’m wondering if it could possibly be the controller and not the heli.
My help will not ascend when it is fully charged. It appears everything is working correctly I am not sure what to do. Please let me know.
Thanks
If both sets of blades are spinning and you’re sure it’s fully charged then I would suggest one of the motors has worn out and is not producing enough rpm. I had the same problem and noticed that the motor for the bottom set of blades was slighlty pulsing when running so I swapped it out and hey presto the heli could ascend again.
My brand new s107 is to the left upon take off and I cannot correct – any ideas?
You didn’t say if you’d tried the trim knob.
Thanks for this site! We’re about the same age (I turn 60 this year), and after discovering indoor heli flying two weeks ago I’m getting nuts about it. Just ordered a Syma S107 through your site (I realize you may only get pennies for the transaction). Just wanted to say thanks!
@Jim Bloody marvelous to hear at your tender young years you have found helis-Now you are bitten by this hobby,your whole life will change-to your friends you will start to talk a different language-“lipo batteries,mods,coaxial,gyro”- I think you get my gist -Enjoy!
I appreciate your comment (I realize you may only get pennies for the transaction) This is true-however I built this blog more for the fun of flying the Syma S107 and never for the dollars-it is nice to get $50 a month earn ,just helps to pay hosting costs-my time spent on the blog is just for the love of flying my Syma’s-Let me know when you get your heli-SF
Hi SF, Got my Syma S107 today, charged it via USB (it charged fast – in under 30 minutes), and just gave it the first test flight. It flew perfectly, w/no trim adjustment necessary. Hovers perfectly, goes where I want it to go, easy to land… When I ordered it through this site, the order went through XHELI via Amazon. Having read about clone and fake Syma S107’s I checked the packaging and blades on mine to confirm that mine was genuine and it apparently is. XHELI aka A-Xheli is also known as eGrandBuy and is located in The City of Industry in CA (and there are separate sites for what is apparently the same company: xheli.com and egrandbuy.com). I’ve seen some negative comments about XHELI on the web but wasn’t concerned given that I was going through Amazon (in this case Amazon was the shipper), and in my experience Amazon is easy to work with if and when there’s a problem with an order from an Amazon Marketplace Seller. I paid $19.75 (and have Amazon Prime so shipping was already covered).
hi how do you change the main rotor blades :/
Each blade is held in place by one screw. Just undo the screw and lever the blade out. Replace them one by one to make sure you don’t get them mixed up. I think you can do the screws up as tight as you like without stiffening the blades pivot.
I have found it is very helpful to magnetize the screw driver to hold the tiny screws when working on the helicopters. Simply lay the tip of your micro screw driver on a magnet for a few minutes and it will hold the screws – big help during reassembly!
@ Paul Ramsbey -great you got that tip-works well-than you for posting
hello my rc has a problem the signal cuts off it will not even fly what can i do ???
@zetta-Just a point turn off any digital interference like digital TV-Keep us posted
I know leaking signals from Cable tv hard line can cause RF interference in Radios. That could be your problem. Try different locations to fly and see if that fixes it. There is also something known as a cold solder connection. They are notorious for causing intermittent signal drop out. They are hard to find sometimes. Found one on a S031 tail motor by accident. Crashed it, it was un ugly crash too, and a wire on the tail tail rotor at the solder contact. wire didn’t break, the solder did.
Assuming it is radio controlled the RF interference could be as I described in the first half of my comment. If the control is IR strong IR sources will disrupt the signal.
If not that then it could be as I stated, a connection fault.
I bought syma 107 i played it for 2 weeks and it flies very well. Recently when i try to fly it again, i cant control it properly because the flybar keep on hitting the top blade, but when I hold it in my hand and push the throttle up, there is no contact between the fly bar and the top blade. I have checked everything and everything looks fine. I cant find whats wrong with it, anybody experienced the same thing.
I got it..the innershaft problem, the hook is broken.
@syma newbie that is neat you have fixed your problem-keep us all posted
Hey, mine is doing the same thing. What is the inner shaft?
@Sara inner shaft has all blades attached to it,also hollow so be careful bending back straight
I just got a S107, charged and flew it 2 times and on 3rd charge and attempted flight the rear rotor is not working. Is this a normal thing, is there anything I can do to check it ? Replacing parts is not gonna be easy as I live in mexico, and someone gave this to me as a gift on a visit. And yes I crashed it how can you not.
Thanks
Hi there,
Thanks for your excellent tips and advice on the S107. I’ve bought a few now and can’t believe how much fun and how well made they are for such a low price. I’ve got a standard one for friends to try, a broken one waiting for a new gear set and a modified one that’s awesome! I’ve put a new front motor in the latter due to burn out, a 240 mA/hr battery, and a San Huan 6020 tail boom – It is super quick now and requires more skill to fly. I would recommend that if any of you haven’t yet modified then get a small tipped soldering iron and have a go. They are all well documented mods.
Cheers
@DrChops Thank you for your comments-keep them combing
I bought a Syma 107g and it just arrived, I put the 6 batteries on the transmitter and turned on the helicopter, then I turned on the transmitter and the it turned on green stable light and I followed the instructions that said to push the accelerator to maximum control route and then adjust it to zero, but the helicopter was flying very high and I feared it would crash so I stopped it with my hand. Now I tried to fly it again but the transmitter won’t bind and it just keeps on flashing green light. (batteries on transmitter are brand new alkaline)
@kkcaro have you checked the forum for your binding problem-Post here
yes I have, I tried it and nothing.. anyways I already returned it/
@kkcaro I get so many emails and comments.can not remember where you have bought from? keep me posted mate so can get you a genuine Syma S107
I bought it from Amazon.com a seller called Beeshoppers and all he sells is Helicopters and airplanes, their syma 107 wasn’t fake, but they didn’t work..
@Kkcaro Must say very unusual to have a remote problem if genuine-so have you sent back? keep us posted
yeah, at first I ordered one and the remote wouldn’t even turn on so I replaced it, and on the replacement the remote wouldn’t bind. I sent them back already
can you give me some recommendations on where to buy a 107g that works properly? maybe a website or a seller from amazon.
@kkcaro My best recommendation at the moment is RcFever The Syma is more expensive on postage here- but genuine-With some help from a fellow Syma Freak like me called Ethan,we are trying to find a few safe buyers for all-stay posted -in the mean time check out RcFever
wow, shipping is a lot.
@kkcaro-Yes shipping is a lot from RcFever I agree-However all helis I bought from them have been genuine- Ebay is cheaper but I have been stung with fakes there so check out the seller-I am working on other companies at the moment to get the Syma cheaper-however I also need to make sure they are genuine-On going work.
well I have found xheli.com and it seems like a legit site, also I see they are on amazon.com, might buy from them.
Fellow Syma friends,
Well, I have now purchased over 30 Syma 107Gs. For the money, this is the best toy ever. I give most of them away to clients. Only one person called to say it wouldn’t work, it would not get off the ground. I went and got it and on examination the screws on the top rotor that secures it to the shaft was not in the slot, or tight. fixed that and it flew great. I sent 4 of them to our troups in Iraq and they love them.
Thank you syma john for your great site.
Dale
@Dale-What a nice generous act to send 4 Syma S107Gs to Iraq,that is a great gesture to the hard working troops out there-Thank you for posting and your kind words
my blades wont even move and i replaced the batteires on the controller and charged the heli and it still wont move
I found the problem with my two S107Gs. Both had a burned out/dead front motor. That’s the motor that controls the lower rotor. On my red S107, I’d replaced the original motor, only to have the replacement toast too!
On my blue S107 the story is the same. Front motor is dead. What to do, I have three dead front motors and one good new rear motor. Can I use that to replace one of the dead? Or is the motor rotation different? If so, then can I reverse the polarity by reverse wiring the motor in and have it turn counter clockwise, or will that cause issues down the line?
Right now my blue Syma is pretty much torn down to basic components. The Red Syma is partly torn down. I would cobble a working Syma out of the two. Hopefully, without having to order new parts.
Also, I’ve found some S107s for around $15 on Amazon, in case you were interested.
-Ric
@Ric good to see you posting again-I have a Syma freak like me called Ethan that has sent me some great photos on fakes,with more finds of different things to look for-in the process of starting a new page up to show his photos-the thing I find interesting is I have only had two motors burn out on me and now I realize bought from Ebay they were fakes-I am doing some research on the pcb boards as there seems to be a relation with some syma s107’s out there that have a different board-I feel the board to the motors might be causing this-(not sure) again maybe fakes-There are some shit sellers out there-that I found also buy all the rejects or returned helis then maybe then sell them via Ebay-look genuine just not built well-maybe put together on a Friday!! Of course this is a massed produced heli,but a lot of hand work goes into the build of it-I am surprised you have had many problems and do appreciate your feed back-I even thought of buying 50 SymaS107 wholesale and opening the box and testing them before sold-giving my approval certificate-however the cost is just not doable as landed in Australia with taxes pushes the cost to high for me to get my money back-still working on it, more just to make sure people by a genuine product-talk soon SF
I now own a total of six SM107’s. All are genuine Syma but of the six only one is still flying properly. Most of my problems have been electronic in nature: On two of the copters, the tail rotor quit working or would only work sporadically. In both case, I tried replacing the tail section (new wires, motor, etc) and they continued to do the same thing so I believe the problem is in the circuit board. I had another two copters that won’t come out of the reset mode on the circuit board ( green LED on board keeps flashing and won’t connect to the remote). On the fifth one (and one of the ones that the tail rotor quit working on), low power and flight time down to about 1 minute. Replaced battery with a known good one – same results. Oiled motors and gears – no luck. We love these little helicopters but it seems the quality control on the electronics has gotten worse over time? The one that is still flying properly was one of the originals purchased 4 months ago. I hate to keep shelling out $$ for new copters when the electronics are seeming to fail prematurely.
Any ideas? Thank you!
Correction – I have purchased (6) S107g’s …
@Paul Ramsbey Where did you buy all your Syma helis from? I have heaps of Symas some were fakes and I sent them back-they were bought off Ebay-I never buy from Ebay any more- I like RcFever now and still buy from Amazon-keep us posted
I purchased a few from X-Heli.com and I don’t recall the name of the other store but it was on Amazon.com. All check out against the list of things to verify: plastic pieces instead of metal, Syma logo on the box and “Gyro” on the remote. Circuit boards have “S107R5” etched into them. Thanks
@Ric I am sorry you took that the wrong way,that was not my intention to hurt you-I really wanted to see if I could help you
with your Syma problems-you see there are a lot of fakes on the market-have bought from Xheli.com with no problems in the
past-did you have a look at my clones and fake post,especially some photos from Michael on fakes
my point is this,would like you to post if you feel you might have fake helis as then will contact Xheli.com and inform them of the problem-
I only do this blog for the love of the Syma S107,own around 23 of them now,some were fakes but ok,only had two with problems
that I bought from Ebay-Come on mate you are free to post comments-again apologies if I offended you in any way.SF
I too am having the same problems – straight out of the box and it worked well for 15 minutes but now 1 hour later after being charged the s107 will just about get off the ground.
@Paul Where did you buy your Syma S107 from?
Hey i’m Jon. I just purchased a REAL Syma S107. I First opened it and it was working fine. I flew it around perfectly without any problems. Going back and forth and even simply just hovering. Then it barely started flying (mind you this is the first flight) so I knew it needed to charge. So I charged it with the USB and it charged. I left it and came back and noticed the bright red light so I Knew it was charged. Then when I went to fly it, it barely lifted at first then randomly lifted really high and I lost control, it then fell but I caught it so it wasn’t crashed or damaged really. So then I tried flying it again and even though it was at full power, it barely lifted of the ground. (This was a flat hardwood floor surface) So then I re-charged it, it still continued to not fly. This happened all in the first day that I got it. So now im charging it for the rest of the night to see if tomorrow morning it will fly. The thing that irritates me is that when i charged it it said it was fully charged and I even let it cool down after charging before flying it again! So I don’t know what could be wrong. Any suggestions as to what I need to do so that it will fly high and perfect again?
If it were me… I would contact the seller and get an RMA (return merchandise authorization) from them and package it up and send it back to them. Depending on what you want, I would get a refund or replacement.
@Jon woo wait a minute do not charge over night-the small lipo battery is a delicate thing-Time needs a cool down before recharge
Also there are many scenarios on flights-battery in remote must be good-no digital interference like Digital TV on as this is a infra
red remote heli- Crashes can screw the Syma up,have you had a few? Tighten blades,look at main shaft is it bent-keep me posted
Battery Post
We have two of these, a yellow and a blue, they are the real deal. I am confused on how to change the channel so that we can fly our kids can fly them at the same time. If we change the channel on the remote neither of them fly. They both have to be on Channel C so there is interference when the kids try to fly at the same time. How on earth do we get them to fly on different channels 🙂
@Jeni Have a Forum post might help-here Let me know
if helps
Hi there, I just bought 2 Syma S107G’s (boxes have the logos, so they are real) from xheli.com. 2 kits AND one copter by itself. I figured as a newbie, have a few for learning, plus can charge them one after the other for more fun.
Well after charging them with USB off the computer, …no fun. All three fire up fine, lift off the ground from my kitchen floor with full power–but only an inch or two. They just won’t go any higher.
I wrote xheli whose response was:
How long was the battery charged for? What was turned on first, the remote or the helicopter? Was the helicopter on a level service after it was turned on?
**I responded but haven’t heard back in a few days. The manual didn’t say anything about turning on remote or heli first, and I don’t remember.
Anyhow, could you provide any suggestions or help?
Thanks,
DL
simply: How long did I charge them; was I
@Jay sorry late getting back to you-hell many emails-Ok-you can not have three remotes on at the same time
unless binded in a different room as they are infra red remotes.These guys hate digital interference like
sunlight and digital TV- Can you fly one ok-let me know more-again sorry in delay getting back-you slipped
through the net-
Syma S107G is a serious piece of JUNK! They SUCK! I have two, 1st one worked well for about 10-14 days, then it crapped out on me and it wouldn’t spin up enough to become airborne. I noticed one rotor wouldn’t turn occasionally, figured out the motor was burned/bit the dust. Replaced it, still no dice. Yeah, both motors are now working, but still no flight.
My second one was bought through this page, from Xheli.com It too stopped working shortly after arrival. Only this one did it even sooner. Something like within 7 days of arrival. Only redeeming factor is that Xheli has given me an RMA and are willing to accept the return. Whether they will replace it as defective and replace it is another question. So I now have… two non-flying Syma S107Gs, a brand new set of main rotors, two replacement tail rotors (which came with the helis), a new set of main motors (Both A/B. I used one replacing the A motor in the RED heli) two USB charging cables and two battery operated infra red controllers.
So in all, I’m out $20 each for the S107Gs, plus shipping, Another $15 in motors including shipping, and another $10 in rotors including shipping. For a grand total of $65!!!
Anyone who wants it, I will let the whole shooting match go for $30. SERIOUSLY! You wanna mess with them, they’re yours to play with. Heck, if you already own a NICE working Syma, this is your parts store!!! You’ll get two complete sets plus, for less than the price of two new ones.
Send me an e-mail 7ohnnyramone@gmail.com and we’ll work something out.
-Ric
@Ric I am really sorry you are having a bad experience with the Syma S107-May I ask,did they fly ok out of the box? Have you had any serious crashes?
I have well over 24 Syma helis and only had 3 motors burn out as just never let them cool down between charging-Tell me more.Am sure some of my
readers here might be interested in buying them from you- There are a few on going repairs on any rc heli or planes-You say you got 14 days
flight from your first Syma-things like gears stripped and bad charging ways can bring on problems as well as I know after two weeks of flying
crashes occur-they are not bullet proof on certain crashes-Thank you for feed back-Keep me posted.
Xheli replied to my contact and gave me an RMA. Thing is, after all is said and done, do I want to put $10 more into this for shipping it back to them? I don’t think so.
No, the gears aren’t stripped, broken or cracked, nor missing teeth. I’ve checked them out with a magnifying glass and bright light. The issue is with the birds them selves. Either the li-po batteries are not holding enough charge, or there are issues with the motors. Those are my best guesses.
I have two spare motors, blades, rotors, etc… I could tear them down and rebuild in hope that it would fly, but it’s a lot of work for a maybe.
As I said, I have two S107Gs (blue and red) , two transmitters/controllers, a spare set of main rotor blades (red), two spare main rotor motors, three spare tail rotor blades, two USB charging cables, I’ll even include batteries for the transmitters, I’ll sell it all to the first taker for $30.00 I have over $65.00 invested in it in helicopters and parts alone. $30 takes it all!!!! (you pay shipping)
If I don’t hear anything from this list, I will put it up on e-bay next weekend
07/17/11
Contact me at 931-296-9957 or 706-566-8056
Bottom line, is the bottom line…. I’m not sinking any more money into this. RMA or not! This is a BS piece of junk! And I would strongly advise anyone considering buying one to reconsider. You’ll only be disappointed in the end. Yes, they’re great when they work, but they are very, very poorly made, or have very low tolerances. They won’t last! Save your money and buy a Walkera!!!
That’s where I’m putting my money!
@Ric steady mate-we are only discussing a rc heli- just asking some questions on the Syma-Yes will take you off forum
no worries-calm down you will die early with that temperament
Me again…figured out that it wasn’t getting a charge. Got a USB to ac adapter making it so much easier tocome charge between flights. Currently waiting for the helicopters battery to cool down so I can charge it again! Thanks for the advice and I have bookmarked this site for future reference. Thanks again
@Jonathan Great to receive your input-Thank you again for you comments-Any more help we are here-not always the fastest reply from me as get huge emails a day for flying rc helis-Take Care-SF
Its Jonathan again …so the syma107 isn’t a fake I checked that site out. No “yiboo” and the part of the wings you said may be metal in fakes, mine is plastic. The “Syma” logo is in the upper right as it should be on the box. Ok so here is more info on my first flight. I knew the first thing I had to do was learn how to take off. Got the wings spinning and got off the ground for 10-15the seconds. If I knew I was close to smacking a wall or about to hit the ground I helped the s107 land lightly without it slapping too hard on the floor. When I felt safe enough I tried flying higher and higher and still would land lightly and reset in the middle of room if an obstacle came up or flying too close too the wall. At the highest altitude of approx 3-4 feet I tried in those few short seconds I had with my inexperience to try flying the copter forward and backward. I didn’t get much practice because I noticed it was losing altitude even when I was trying to increase altitude by increasingly adjusting the left stick up and up even at it’s highest the copter would lose height. At that point I knew it was the battery because at reset point in the middle of the floor I didn’t have the juice to make any more flight attempts. Since charging is an issue I’ve had im bringing it back for replacement which the owner of K & E Gifts offered. Or fixing it. I will hopefully get a new one and being more attentive to any “fakes” and will repost soon. What did you think of my first flight? No crashes and didn’t let the wings slap the wall or ceiling. About the USB the red light was always on at its brightest and I didnt have a client if it was charged. I will try new batteries on my new s107.
Its Jonathan again …so the syma107 isn’t a fake I checked that site out. No “yiboo” and the part of the wings you said may be metal in fakes, mine is plastic. The “Syma” logo is in the upper right as it should be on the box. Ok so here is more info on my first flight. I knew the first thing I had to do was learn how to take off. Got the wings spinning and got off the ground for 10-15the seconds. If I knew I was close to smacking a wall or about to hit the ground I helped the s107 land lightly without it slapping too hard on the floor. When I felt safe enough I tried flying higher and higher and still would land lightly and rest in middle of room
Hi,
I have the same problem as Freddy,any advice would be appreciated as mine is also brand new only flown a few times.
I just purchased a s107 yellow copter and have all ready experienced many problems. I had it out of the box setup and piloted 10 minutes and it died. Went to recharge with USB and the light flickered when I plugged the USB into the computer and after 40another mi.s recharged I turned the copter on then remote and the wings spun for a few seconds and died. Tried to charge with remote and the light was green the whole time so I had no idea if it was charged. Nothing on the second try. Went for USB once again and once the USB was plugged into the computer it was completely red (like the remote is always green). Tried a standard charge time 30 or so and the copters lights went on like normal but the wings spun for a few seconds again and then it died. Am I not putting the recharge cable in the helicopter correctly or not in all the way? Or is something wrong with the battery/batteries in the copter or remote? Or is the circuit board fried? Please help! I loved flying it for the 10with minutes I could.
@Jonathan First where did you buy your SymaS107? When you plug the Syma into the usb the red light on cable should go off-wait until red light glows red bright
then should be charged-If charging with remote make sure batteries in remote are new.The other thing is not to fly until heli drops from the sky,5-8 mins max,these batteries
can be hard to charge after being completed depleted,not saying that is your problem-Did you have a crash in the 10 mins of flying? give us more info and we will get you flying again.
Check my Fake post to make sure you have genuine Syma S107
I saw instructions for pairing the syma 107 helicopter. Now when I need it i cannot find it. Do you have a solution?
@William Q Try this post on Forum Let me know if helps
iv got the syma so31, the indicator light on the controller won’t stop flashing, which means the heli wont work.. how do we stop this?